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my_photography wrote:
Zeiss is releasing the Distagon 1,4/35 for ZE and ZF2. Maybe more experienced members will know if they are the same with the C/Y version. My only wish is with this introduction, the C/Y version will drop its price.
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Focal Length: 35mm
Aperture Range: f/1.4 - f/16
Number of Elements: 11/9
Focusing Range: 0.3m - infinity
Filter size: 72mm
Full press released from Zeiss: http://www.zeiss.com/4125681C00466C26/Contents-Frame/7B1B16269DA3F0D085256B75005EDDEE
(Sorry link does not seem to go in automatically.).
Please click "International Press Releases" then "01.09.2010".
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Probably another dream lens with a nightmare price. 
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ylyad wrote:
| LucisPictor wrote: |
| Probably another dream lens with a nightmare price. |
Recommended price: 1400 euros...
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Nikos wrote:
Yesterday I exchanged a few emails with Zeiss regarding the build quality of the ZE/ZF series.
The paint on the focusing ring of my 2/35 started to show signs of wear after just 5 days of very careful use.
I would go with a used Contax version, as I did with 1,4/50 and the 1,4/85.
I received them in perfect condition, 10+ years after they were manufactured.
I will post all my communication in a new post.
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Esox lucius wrote:
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| The paint on the focusing ring of my 2/35 started to show signs of wear after just 5 days of very careful use. |
Interesting. My 85/1.4 has followed me for rough travel in Japan, SE Asia, Europe, Scandinavian (read: arctic) winters all the way to The Pacific Ocean and Sierras of México. I can find two small dings and scratches on the barrel, but no paint loss.
Do let us know in another thread how this evolves, I am particularly interested as the 35/2 ZF.2 is on my get it now list of equipment. |
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Orio wrote:
So they finally did it.
Uhmm... loads of CA in the specular highlights... I don't remember my Contax copies to have it so bad.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
| Esox lucius wrote: |
| nkanellopoulos wrote: |
| The paint on the focusing ring of my 2/35 started to show signs of wear after just 5 days of very careful use. |
Interesting. My 85/1.4 has followed me for rough travel in Japan, SE Asia, Europe, Scandinavian (read: arctic) winters all the way to The Pacific Ocean and Sierras of México. I can find two small dings and scratches on the barrel, but no paint loss.
Do let us know in another thread how this evolves, I am particularly interested as the 35/2 ZF.2 is on my get it now list of equipment. |
What is your serial number?
I am preparing my post about the correspondence with Zeiss. Should be there in 30 minutes.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
1400 EURos ?
I don't understand ..
I think the price for the C/Y version is going to be higher ..
because there is a plenty of room for mark the price up
good luck ...
I am happy with the C/Y version anyway ..
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Here is old Distagon info>
http://www.pebbleplacephotography.com/Offload/PDFs/Distagon_1_4_35mm_e.pdf
Mine cost me $520 after the factory OHed, me too sticks to this older lens.
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Orio wrote:
| trifox wrote: |
I think the price for the C/Y version is going to be higher ..
because there is a plenty of room for mark the price up
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I don't complain, I have three!
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Orio wrote:
Here's a picture from one of my Contax copies, ok it's not wide open (could not find one), but still...
Compare the specular highlights with those on the Zeiss site photo.
FIrst full, then 100% crop:
Zeiss site photo (crop):
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:24 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| trifox wrote: |
I think the price for the C/Y version is going to be higher ..
because there is a plenty of room for mark the price up
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I don't complain, I have three! |
No wonder, I can't even find one at an affordable price.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Quote from Carl Zeiss Lenses' Facebook page:
69 photos in the set, they're downsized but EXIF and RAW conversion data is available |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
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| 69 photos in the set, they're downsized but EXIF and RAW conversion data is available |
I guess everybody can not make every lens shine
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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I guess everybody can not make every lens shine |
Agree, most of them are banal photos
Also, I wonder why one with a 1.4/35 Distagon in his hands would choose to shoot pictures in California blinding high noon sunlight, where even the 2/35 at wide open would be too fast.
Those pictures do not put the lens at stake in the areas that are sensible for a f/1.4 lens, that is, night pictures, interiors pictures, live events, concerts, artificial light flare situations, etc.
A wasted opportunity. I guess some people should live forever with a f/4.5-5.6 zoom, that's what they deserve.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Well, it's not going to take long before a production-approved lens finds the hands of a photographer who puts it into nocturnal use. I do look forward to it, the samples so far tell really not much about the lens. |
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egidio wrote:
amazing 3d in these samples
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aleksanderpolo wrote:
Lloyd Chambers's first impression:
http://www.diglloyd.com/diglloyd/2010-09-blog.html#blog20100916Zeiss35 |
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koji wrote:
And his second impression>
http://www.diglloyd.com/diglloyd/index.html
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Orio wrote:
Being a subscriber (but not for long anymore), I've read the full version of his report, and well... I have to smile at the enthusiastic report as he's discovering this lens that we have known and loved for so many years now... he sounds so naive
I mean... like discovering the Americas in 2010, or something...
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
Yeah, I looked at the samples and how he explained it and I thought "Hmm, sounds like this C/Y Distagon I have here "
Of course, I guess there's always the chance that they've improved the coating, better control for CA, and perhaps, being a wide angle lens, perform better on digital sensors with better control over telecentricity.
At least, one would hope so with the price they're asking
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I have to smile at the enthusiastic report as he's discovering this lens that we have known and loved for so many years now |
after reading the report, do you feel the new lens is like the Contax version
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Orio wrote:
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| Orio wrote: |
| I have to smile at the enthusiastic report as he's discovering this lens that we have known and loved for so many years now |
after reading the report, do you feel the new lens is like the Contax version |
For what I could see, yes, but there's also to be said that his test photos are so unchallenging and unimaginative (in other words: boring), that it's difficult to say.
I wait to see this lens in the hands of a real photographer before I say anything conclusive.
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