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 Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:28 am Post subject: Cunor (Old Tokina) 2.8/105 T-mount |
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luisalegria wrote:
I saw this thing in a lot with other lenses. Somehow I sensed this one was a Tokina, one of the very popular preset line of the 1960's, most of which were made for T-mounts -
Here it is (on the right) beside the very common Tokina-made 3.5/135 preset, mine was sold by Sears. "Cunor" is no dount one of the hundreds of brands used to sell Japanese lenses in those days, though its a new one to me.
It is one of the Tokina line, I am convinced of that. It shares most construction and finishing details with its larger and smaller siblings, down to the form of the numbers and letters.
I believe these lenses were part of this Tokina preset line -
2.8/28 - I am not certain about this
3/28 - not too common; interesting max aperture
2.8/35 - Hard to distinguish from similar lenses from other makers
3.5/35 - Hard to distinguish from similar lenses from other makers
1.8/85 - Uncertain, and rare if it exists
4/100 - rare, I have one
2.8/105 - uncommon
2.8/135 - uncommon; why ?
3.5/135 - very common
3.5/180 - rare, I have seen just one
4.5/200 - very common
4.5/250 - uncertain, rare if it exists
5.5/300 - very common
5.5/350 - very uncommon
6.3/400 - common
5.9/400 - rare, I have seen just one
8/600 - not hard to find
This 105 shares all the good and bad points of the Tokina line - simple and well-made, durable, quite trouble-free (I have never seen a bad diaphragm on these), and a long minimum focus (5', 105's will usually go to 4'). You will always need a short extension ring in your pocket with most of these old Tokinas.
Performance ? Well, like most of the the old Tokinas, it is excellent. This is a sharp lens at f/2.8, to the limit of my sensor. It does have a tendency to flare. I did a "brick test" for distortion, and there is none. Bokeh seems very nice, but you have to hit me over the head with bokeh to make me notice, so I'm not the best judge.
Most are at f/2.8
Flare -
The bird -
crop -
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patrickh wrote:
Luis
Did you train the seagull to sit still for you? Thanks for the introduction to yet another unusual/unknown/forgotten lens. Your threads are always well shot and tell an interesting story Thanks
patrickh
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mo wrote:
I agree with patrick thank you for always willing to share your knowledge and interesting as always!
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Rolf wrote:
I cannot say more than patrichk and Mo-Fo before.
Great series and very interesting story as usual. Thanks for sharing !
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estudleon
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: Cunor (Old Tokina) 2.8/105 T-mount |
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: Cunor (Old Tokina) 2.8/105 T-mount |
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estudleon wrote:
| luisalegria wrote: |
1.8/85 - Uncertain, and rare if it exists
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Yes, it's exist. I have one.
Very sharp. In the cold side. Something large and heavy.
Rino.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Hola Rino,
I thought your 85mm was made by Sankor ?
Do you have a picture ?
Luis
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| luisalegria wrote: |
Hola Rino,
I thought your 85mm was made by Sankor ?
Do you have a picture ?
Luis |
Hola Luis.
Excuse the bad quality of the pics. I don't have a DSRL, only a point and shot (don't like it).
I hope that could be usefull to you.
It's a classical tokina, isn't it ?
Chau Luis.
Rino.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Hola Rino,
Thank you for the pictures.
I never found out who made the old preset Vivitars.
I don't think it was Tokina, but it could be. Or some of them maybe. I now think there were several makers for the Vivitars.
The others in the Vivitar preset series look very different from all the old Tokinas. I took apart an old Vivitar 3.5/200 and its also very different in the mechanics. I have a Lentar-brand 3.5/135 that is the same as what was sold as a Vivitar, and it is also very different from the Tokinas, it even focuses the other way.
But this one could be, at least the focus ring turns in the same direction as the Tokinas.
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Hi Rino
I have the Viv 85/1.8 as well and it's a stonker! I love it!
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estudleon wrote:
HI Shrek.
This 85 mm has a strong 3 D effect. It's a planar design.
Of course not summilux, not planar, not canon, OK. But with it you can obtain very nice portraits.
Who did vivitar pre-sets ? One maker or more? Who know it tell us please?
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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tomasg wrote:
well, i just got this lens, the Vivitar 85/1.5 i mean, the guy who sold it to me told me that mine was made by Komine
errata corrige
another lens was made by Komine, not the Vivitar, (i`ve just checked my emails)
sorry for the mistake
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Pancolart wrote:
Vivitar 1.8/85mm T2 can be distinguished by strangely connected aperture blades like seen on photo from LuisPictor (Weltblick 3.5/135mm): http://forum.mflenses.com/weltblick-3-5-135-t4611.html
So if you can find Tokina lenses with such blades than both lenses above are made by Tokina...
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
The old Tokinas don't have that type of blades.
This is the same design as on the Vivitar preset 3.5/200 I had that I gave to Big Dawg. It must be the same maker as that one.
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Pancolart wrote:
Now this is becoming a true detective story... |
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| luisalegria wrote: |
The old Tokinas don't have that type of blades.
This is the same design as on the Vivitar preset 3.5/200 I had that I gave to Big Dawg. It must be the same maker as that one. |
+1
My vivitar 1,8/85 T mount has 15 blades but not the same type of blades than the 135 of lucispictor.
BW 1,8/85 what a sharp lens!!
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Pancolart
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Would you please share a photo of your type...I've seen three samples all the same, all had blades strangely interconnected on the upper side.
Sharp indeed! Check the two rooftop photos in full size: http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/mfl_club_members/pancolart/VIVITAR85mm/ |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
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Location: Argentina
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I tried but my P&S not shot, I don't know what happen with it.
Sorry.
Rino.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
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Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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ramiller500
Joined: 20 Nov 2007
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Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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ramiller500 wrote:
Lens components such as diaphragms are not necessarily made by the manufacturer of the finished lens assembly. Manufacturers often change component suppliers. This makes the shape and appearance of some components unreliable indicators of who made the lens. Many components of Japanese lenses were probably sourced "off-the-shelf" to meet lens makers' specifications, but with the lens makers not imposing their own in-house designs.
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Another possible manufacturer: http://captjack.exaktaphile.com/Taika%20page.htm
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
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Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Taika was I believe a distributors brand.
All Taikas I have seen have actually been made by Taisei Kogaku (Tamron), Kyoei, Tokyo Koki (Tokina), and one probably by Fujita.
The trademarks used with the Taika brand like Coligon, Cinconar, Terragon, etc., were used also with Spectra and Aetna brands, implying some relationship.
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
mine has 74 as the two first digits, take a look at this:
http://www.cameraquest.com/VivLensManuf.htm
http://www.robertstech.com/vivitar.htm |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
And I bought one yesterday at the Houten camera fair. It was cheap (10 euros) but I did remember something from this topic. Also, 105mm lenses are not that common, 135mm lenses were all over the place but lenses of this focal length are really uncommon.
Here it is among the other lenses I found that day:
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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indianadinos
Joined: 06 Jul 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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indianadinos wrote:
Hi,
| Spotmatic wrote: |
| And I bought one yesterday at the Houten camera fair. |
Do you have a free guest place for the next camera fair  ?
Cheers
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Takumar: 24/3.5, 28/3.5, 35/2, 35/3.5, 50/1.4, 55/1.8, 85/1.8, 105/2.8, 120/2.8, 135/3.5, 150/4, 200/4
Pentax-K: M28/2.8, K28/3.5, M50/1.4, A50/1.7, M50/4 Macro, K85/1.8, K105/2.8, K135/2.5, M200/4, M70-150/4
Zeiss: Flektogon 20/2.8, 20/4, 35/2.4, 35/2.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 58/2, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer: Primagon 35/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Orestor 135/2.8
Schacht/Steinheil: Travenar 90/2.8, Travenon 135/4.5, Quinar 135/2.8, Quinar 135/3.5
Russian: MIR 37B, Industar 50/3.5, Helios 44M & 44M-2, Jupiter 37A
P6: Flektogon 50/4, Biometar 80/2.8, Orestor 300/4
Nikkor: Nikkor-O 35/2, Micro 55/3.5, Nikkor-S 50/1.4, Nikkor-Q 135/2.8
Fuji: EBC 28/3.5, EBC 55/3.5 Macro, EBC 135/2.5
Misc Lenses: Kiron 105/2.8 Macro, Tamron SP90/2.5
... and a few other Vivitar, Tamron, Sigma and Soligor lenses ...
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
| indianadinos wrote: |
Hi,
| Spotmatic wrote: |
| And I bought one yesterday at the Houten camera fair. |
Do you have a free guest place for the next camera fair ?
Cheers |
Actually I have!
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:14 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
You have a very clean Biotar !
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