Chinon 1.7/50mm

montecarlo · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1568 Location: Romania

This one is the lens I waited almost 3 weeks. I'm happy that it arrived in good condition. This is in very good shape, but again, no caps. Instead it came in a nice zip case.
Is this lens:
http://www.pbase.com/steephill/image/38667502
It was marketed in europe as Revuenon 50 f:1.7 or Agfa Color 50 f:1.7 depending on the camera: Revue/Revueflex (AC3,SC3,...) or Agfa Selectronic .
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Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8 , Cosinon MC 200mm f:3.5
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri MC 28mm f:2 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 75-150mm f:4
Pentax K100D , smc Pentax-DA 18-55 , smc Pentax-FA 80-320

Orio · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 12538 Location: West Emilia

Congrats, Cosmin. Looking forward to your samples.
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montecarlo · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1568 Location: Romania

Thank you.

I forgot to mention the price: 16.6 GBP (won with Buy it now) , shipping included.
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Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8 , Cosinon MC 200mm f:3.5
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri MC 28mm f:2 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 75-150mm f:4
Pentax K100D , smc Pentax-DA 18-55 , smc Pentax-FA 80-320

montecarlo · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1568 Location: Romania

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Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8 , Cosinon MC 200mm f:3.5
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri MC 28mm f:2 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 75-150mm f:4
Pentax K100D , smc Pentax-DA 18-55 , smc Pentax-FA 80-320

Laurence · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject:

Clean and beautiful. NICE MTF curves. I love the high-quality colored lettering, and the obvious robust construction. Nice catch, man! VERY nice catch. Makes you want to mount it up, and take off with the camera, even if it's just in the yard!

montecarlo · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1568 Location: Romania

Thank you.

Couldn't resist and took some shots indoors (ISO 400 and wide open f:1.7)

(all are 6Mpx just RAW converted to Jpeg - so are big)

http://cosmin_m.sitesled.com/tests/IMGP1128.jpg

http://cosmin_m.sitesled.com/tests/IMGP1129.jpg

http://cosmin_m.sitesled.com/tests/IMGP1130.jpg

http://cosmin_m.sitesled.com/tests/IMGP1131.jpg

http://cosmin_m.sitesled.com/tests/IMGP1134.jpg

http://cosmin_m.sitesled.com/tests/IMGP1135.jpg

Hope my hand didn't shaked too much. Time was , in some shots, around 1/5 - 1/20 of a second
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Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8 , Cosinon MC 200mm f:3.5
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri MC 28mm f:2 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 75-150mm f:4
Pentax K100D , smc Pentax-DA 18-55 , smc Pentax-FA 80-320

Laurence · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject:

Of course, it's a bit hard to tell about sharpness on a clinical level, but man these sure look beautifully sharp to me. But the REAL surprise here are the out-of-focus highlights, transitioning into CREAMY smooth colors in the background!

I can bet you'll be able to get some fine portraiture with this relatively fast "creamsicle" lens. I've always felt that a 50mm lens is sometimes mistakenly overlooked for portraits.

It seems to me that you did WELL. Very well for 16 pounds and change! Nice buy, and I particularly think it's a beautifully worked up lens.

Attila · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16065 Location: Budapest,Hungary

As I expected based on my previous Chinon experience , this lens is so good! Congrats!
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
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Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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canondslr71 · Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 9

Do have guys have any opinions on the chinon 55mm f1.7. Wondering if I should go ahead and trade it for my smc takumar 55mm 1.8.

Sharpenss, bokeh characteristics, color, etc?

You're a big help here, thanks a lot.

paguru · Joined: 16 Sep 2008 Posts: 14 Location: Munich, Germany

no-X · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject:

I had the 55/1.7 Chinon. It's a really sharp lens (even borders on APS-C were very good), but I can't compare to the SMC 55/1.8.
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up-to 30mm: Vivitar (Tokina) Series 1 VMC 28/1.9, Vivitar (Komine) MC close-focus 28/2.8, Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS
35mm: Super Takumar 35/2 PRO, S-M-C Takumar 35/2, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, CZJ eMC Flektogon 35/2.4, SC Curtagon 35/2.8, SC Baby-C 35/2.8, Vivitar 35/1.9
50mm: S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4, Tomioka Cosinon MC 55/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, CZJ Biotar T 58/2, CZJ eMC Pancolar 50/1.8, MMZ Helios MC 44-3 58/2, Helios 77M 50/1.8, JOV Helios 77M-4 50/1.8, KMZ Zenitar M2s MC 50/2, KMZ Industar 50/3.5, MC Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Volna-9 50/2.8, Meostigmat 50/1.3, Polar 60/1.3
85mm: CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 EX, CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8, aJ Biometar 80/2.8, KMZ Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (custom hybrid of 40 and 40-2), MG Telefogar V 90/3.5
over 100mm: nothing now

peterqd · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 2658 Location: High Wycombe, UK

Did you realise the Chinon is a K-mount lens and the Takumar is M42? I've never used a Chinon lens but if it beats the SMC Takumar 1.8/55 it must be fantastic.
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Russian - J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50-2, H44m-4 Vega12
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canondslr71 · Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 9

It is a screwmount. I'm hoping it would have better bokeh characteristics than the takumar (the taks can be gotten for less than $20 too).

no-X · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject:

As I remember, bokeh of this lens was good, but nothing exceptional. Unfortunately I haven't good exaples for ilustration. I found only one...

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up-to 30mm: Vivitar (Tokina) Series 1 VMC 28/1.9, Vivitar (Komine) MC close-focus 28/2.8, Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS
35mm: Super Takumar 35/2 PRO, S-M-C Takumar 35/2, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, CZJ eMC Flektogon 35/2.4, SC Curtagon 35/2.8, SC Baby-C 35/2.8, Vivitar 35/1.9
50mm: S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4, Tomioka Cosinon MC 55/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, CZJ Biotar T 58/2, CZJ eMC Pancolar 50/1.8, MMZ Helios MC 44-3 58/2, Helios 77M 50/1.8, JOV Helios 77M-4 50/1.8, KMZ Zenitar M2s MC 50/2, KMZ Industar 50/3.5, MC Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Volna-9 50/2.8, Meostigmat 50/1.3, Polar 60/1.3
85mm: CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 EX, CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8, aJ Biometar 80/2.8, KMZ Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (custom hybrid of 40 and 40-2), MG Telefogar V 90/3.5
over 100mm: nothing now

Attila · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16065 Location: Budapest,Hungary

This is very nice smooth bokeh in my opinion.
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Olympus E-1,Bessa L,Bessa RF,Olympus OM2n,Nikon FA,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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