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A G Photography
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:57 am Post subject: Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 80/2.8 Exa mount |
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A G Photography wrote:
First of all, I apologize as I don't write anymore so often on this forum.
I didn't argue with anyone (actually with Attila about B&W images and politics, but this happened also before  ).
It's just that I don't materially have the time being pretty busy with my actually job (bank) and my second-in progress-job (photographer). Just trying to keep my blog up and running with fresh content about every couple of days is an impressive time-consuming task even if it is paying (and it will more and more in the long term).
Anyway, let's go back to our beloved lenses...
I already own a copy of this lens in m42 mount and I wasn't impressed at all by its quality. It wasn't bad, but not as good as I was accustomed to, some of my old tessars 50 mm are really great lenses all around despite they're not so much considered nowadays.
A couple of weeks ago I received this other Tessar 80 in exa mount thanks to the help from a very nice member of this forum and I put it aside trying to get the time to properly test it (yeah... new lens and no sudden shot, now you can understand how busy I am ).
Finally the chance came because I needed to test some headshot lighting scheme and I was able to work in a relaxed way without hurry.
I used myself as a model and though "ok, let's try this new lens".
Camera was 5dMkII and image is postprocessed to looks like film but with very few changes beside some contrast improvement and normal sharpening procedure (I would have liked to use real film but it's not really feasible in self portraiture, unless there's some trick that I don't know other than wasting rolls of film on trials).
The results were jaw-dropping considering that I used the Tessar wide open. Anyway look at it by yourself (and pardon the model, as I said it was the only one at disposal at late at night).
P.S: the blurring on hair comes from a running fan not from the lens .
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SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
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Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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rick_oleson
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rick_oleson wrote:
Certainly looks like a good result! I have the lens as an M42 preset also, and like you have been unimpressed with its performance. I may give it another look though, I don't think I've used it on the digital camera.
(ps: using yourself as a model, how did you focus it so perfectly?)
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Mist
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Mist wrote:
Wow great sharpness and contrast ! |
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A G Photography
Joined: 11 May 2008
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Location: Bologna - Italy
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A G Photography wrote:
| rick_oleson wrote: |
| (ps: using yourself as a model, how did you focus it so perfectly?) |
You have to shoot quite a bit to get the right one woth good expression and focus.
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My Photography Website
My Blog about Photography and Italian Cuisine
My Photostream on Flickr
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DSLR: Nikon d80, Olympus e410
SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
Lenses
Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
| A G Photography wrote: |
| rick_oleson wrote: |
| (ps: using yourself as a model, how did you focus it so perfectly?) |
You have to shoot quite a bit to get the right one woth good expression and focus. |
Really a great portrait. By posting it here I think you like it too 
Of course, if you do more self portraits, then you can also use an external monitor to check the composition in Live View.
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A G Photography
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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A G Photography wrote:
| Spotmatic wrote: |
| A G Photography wrote: |
| rick_oleson wrote: |
| (ps: using yourself as a model, how did you focus it so perfectly?) |
You have to shoot quite a bit to get the right one woth good expression and focus. |
Really a great portrait. By posting it here I think you like it too
Of course, if you do more self portraits, then you can also use an external monitor to check the composition in Live View. |
I used monitor Live view but be assured that you can't really check focus of a wide open lens unless you have the monitor at less than 50 cm (and usually you can't as you have lights at less than 50 cm ). So it's just pretty useful to control framing, but little more.
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My Photography Website
My Blog about Photography and Italian Cuisine
My Photostream on Flickr
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DSLR: Nikon d80, Olympus e410
SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
Lenses
Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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Attila wrote:
Haha nice to see you dear my friend! B&W match to you
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Bruce wrote:
Alessandro , you are the creative one!
You remind me of my video days, only you shoot Dslr 
very well done!
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Lightshow
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Lightshow wrote:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just bought an Exakta mount version, and a search brought up this thread and this http://forum.mflenses.com/fscarl-zeiss-jena-tessar-80-2-8-t29206 which they couldn't identify the mount, I can confirm that it's missing the rear mount section, if its still kicking around I could provide measurements.
I'm off to test it now.
Edit:
Here's the basic measurements to make a new mount.
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Attila wrote:
Long time ago on my wish list, congrats , look forward your result.
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Lightshow
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Lightshow wrote:
Here's one from yesterday's test run on my A7r.
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Lightshow
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
It's definitely a good lens, not as bad as some of the posts I've seen.
It came with the mount attached, Some other photographer had one without the mount, so I only explored to see if the mount was removable, which it was.
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Lightshow
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I updated the above post to include the measurements.
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