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ChrisLilley
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 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: CARL ZEISS JENA II 24MM F/2.8 MC MACRO |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Any opinions on this lens (Nikon mount)? I'm starting to research something in the 18-25mm range. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I think it's one of the Japanese "new jenas".
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I've never heard about this lens and I doubt that it originally comes in Nikon mount.
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
The same http://forum.mflenses.com/another-japanese-jena-t4447.html#34604
but I don't know its quality. High price, huh.
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Orio wrote:
To pay more than 200 Euros for this lens it's just ridiculous. At that price you can buy two Yashica MLs.
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LucisPictor wrote:
Ah, OK, the "Japanese" version...
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Helios wrote:
Definitively not the Jena design nore the "spirit" ... Made probably by cosina ... (85% of "independent" and oem production, today , if not 100% nowadays.) Or may be Sigma/sun group . Possible. |
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peterm1 wrote:
I am afraid that the only ultra wides I own are
- a Panagor 21mm f4 in M42 mount. I have only ever seen one other advertised (in another mount.) Its quite sharp and contrasty and seems to keep distortion under control. It is a lens that convinced me that after market lenses can be pretty good.
- a 24mm Nikkor f2.8 (extremely good.) and
- a 24mm SMC Pentax f3.5 in M42 also rather good.
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ChrisLilley
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ChrisLilley
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ChrisLilley wrote:
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| Definitively not the Jena design nore the "spirit" ... Made probably by cosina ... (85% of "independent" and oem production, today , if not 100% nowadays.) Or may be Sigma/sun group . Possible. |
Ah. I see discussion here
http://forum.cdegroot.com/viewtopic.php?t=294
sounds rubbish, then. |
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Attila wrote:
I have 28mm f2.8 lens Jena II a good lens, you can see pictures taken with this lens in Gallery.
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patrickh wrote:
I love my nikkor 24/2 - one of the best lenses I have. Price seems to have got out of hand these days though.
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ChrisLilley
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
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I love my nikkor 24/2 - one of the best lenses I have. Price seems to have got out of hand these days though.
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How would you compare it to the Nikkor 24/2.8 (at sharp apertures ie 5.6 on up)?
I just lost Click here to see on Ebay because my bid was influenced by "The movement of the focusing ring is a little loose, with a small amount of rattling noise."
The f/2 sometimes seems to command significantly higher prices than the 2.8. I have also read that some prefer the 2.8. |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Yes I'm mainly thinking of the Nikkors, the CZJ was in the "also consider" category.
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patrickh wrote:
Chris
It may be my copy of course (QC can cause substantial variations) but my 24/2 AIS is significantly better than the 24/2.8 AF I have. I do not know if there has been a design change between the two versions. But I do have to say even the AF version is very good. On the nikon the 24 equates to 36mm and it is a very comfortable range for me. Not really fond of the very wide angle.  Up a little in size the 28/2,8 with 0.2m min focus is a real beauty as well - I know Attila fell in love when he got his.
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