Blindfold test

[Orio]

Ok, not a real test, just for fun
I made four couples of photos, wide open and stopped down, each for two lenses. Photos are not 100% identical position, like I say, it's just for fun, but they are close enough to allow comparison.
So you have four "matches" and in each, please pick one favourite couple, A or B.
PLease note that all As and Bs are not necessarily always the same lens. I mean that the lens that is A in one match, may be B in another match.

MATCH 1

LENS A, wide open then stopped down



LENS B, wide open then stopped down



MATCH 2

LENS A, wide open then stopped down



LENS B, wide open then stopped down



MATCH 3

LENS A, wide open then stopped down



LENS B, wide open then stopped down



MATCH 4

LENS A, wide open then stopped down



LENS B, wide open then stopped down



Please pick preferred couple for each match, and please don't focus only on one aspect (e.g. sharpness or bokeh) but give an overall appreciation judgement.
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LENSES: Carl Zeiss, Leitz, Soviet, old Nikkors, others.
DSLR: Canon EOS 5D, 50D. SLR: Contax AX, RX, 167MT; Voigtländer Bessaflex TM; Praktica FX2; Nikon FM2, F70.
RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Kiev-4, Voigtlaender Bessa-T, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta, Agfa Record II.
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[Richard_D]

Okay, quick overall impressions:

1A 2A 3B 4A
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Richard

The interesting bit:

Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.

DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.

More to come...

[Orio]

No one else wants to play?
There is nothing to win but also nothing to lose
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ХОРИОС-61 ( ώρεος ) : Lens sana in corpore sano

Main Tools:
LENSES: Carl Zeiss, Leitz, Soviet, old Nikkors, others.
DSLR: Canon EOS 5D, 50D. SLR: Contax AX, RX, 167MT; Voigtländer Bessaflex TM; Praktica FX2; Nikon FM2, F70.
RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Kiev-4, Voigtlaender Bessa-T, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta, Agfa Record II.
Read Full List HERE
www.timelessphotography.eu
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[F16SUNSHINE]

1A
2B
3A
4A

[Orio]

interesting results, so far!
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ХОРИОС-61 ( ώρεος ) : Lens sana in corpore sano

Main Tools:
LENSES: Carl Zeiss, Leitz, Soviet, old Nikkors, others.
DSLR: Canon EOS 5D, 50D. SLR: Contax AX, RX, 167MT; Voigtländer Bessaflex TM; Praktica FX2; Nikon FM2, F70.
RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Kiev-4, Voigtlaender Bessa-T, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta, Agfa Record II.
Read Full List HERE
www.timelessphotography.eu
www.oriofoto.net

"Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " (George Orwell)
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[LucisPictor]

I'm sitting in my institution office, not at home and I do not have a good display here.

So as far as I can say:
1B (I don't like how the A-lens renders the leaves of the ooF plant bottom left.)
2A
3A
4A
Main aspects for winning/losing a match were
- detail rendition
- highligh bokeh
- general impression

But it's really hard to tell from here. It might be different when I look at it at my home PC.
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"Schnäppchenjäger" | "KAPCTEH" | "Karusutenu" | "Carsten" | T-shirt?
Cams in use: EOS 40D, EOS 350D, EOS500, Spotmatic SPII, Yashica-24, EXA I & 1c, Zenit EM; Oly 35RC,Minolta Hi-Matic E & F, Ricoh 500RF, Yashica Electro 35 GS, FED-3b and some others...
Lenses in use: Asahi Pentax: 2.8/28;3.5/35;1.4/50;1.7/50;2.8/105;28-80 | Canon (AF):1.8/50;17-85;75-300 | Former GDR: Pentacon 3.5/30; Pentaflex 1.8/50; CZJ 2.8/50; CZJ 4/135; Pentacon 4/200 | Fujinon: 43-75 | Hanimex: 3.5/23; 4/100;80-200 | Hoya: 25-42;80-205 | Kiron: 2/28;70-210 | Leica: Elmarit-R 2.8/35 | Mamiya: 1.8/55 | Minolta: 1.7/50 | Nikkor: 2.8/24;2/35;2/50;1.2/55;1.8/85;3.5/135 | West German: Ludwig 2.9/50; Meyer 2.8/100; Will 4.5/105; Schneider 3.5/135;Enna 3.5/135; Zeiss 4/135;Isco 4/135; Enna 4.5/240 | Olympus: 3.5/28;1.4/50;3.5/135 | Rikenon: 1.7/50;35-70 | Rollei/Voigtländer: 1.4/55;1.8/50 | Russian: Peleng3.5/8; Zenitar2.8/16; MIR2.8/37; Volna2.8/50; Industar3.5/50; Industar3.5/5cm; Helios2/50; Helios2/58; Volna2.8/80; Jupiter2/85; Kaleinar2.8/100;Tair2.8/135; Jupiter3.5/135; Jupiter4/135; Telear3.5/200; Jupiter4/200; Tair4.5/300;RF: Jupiter2.8/35;Industar2.8/53 | Sigma: 28-85;28-105(AF);17-70(AF) | Soligor: 28-105;35-200;70-220 | Tamron: 2.5/24;2.5/135;2.8/135;60-300;70-210 | Tokina: 28-105;80-200;12-24(AF);70-210(AF) | Vivitar: 3.5/17;2/24;2/28;2.5/28;2.8/28 | Yashica: 1.7/50;2/5cm | Other Japanese: Cosina3.8/20; Petri2.8/28; Albinar2.8/28; Porst1.8/35; 2.8/135; Weltblick3.5/135; Beroflex 8/500; Spiratone28-200; Maginon70-210
Green are the lenses I shoot the most.
More? http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65

[Laurence]

1A, 2B, 3A, 4B

Especially 1A, very nice and appeals to me overall, especially in the blue window bokeh.

4B has a nice 3-dimensional quality and the colors are just ever-so-slightly more "deep" than the others.
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Using: M42 lens system
Using: Contaflex 126 system
Using: Mamiya RB67 Pro-S system
Cameras in Use: Yashica Mat 124, Revueflex 3003, Yashica Electro 35, Pentax K110D, Contaflex 126, Mamiya RB67 Pro-S

Lenses in Use: Zeiss Tele-Tessar 135/2.8, Industar 50/3.5, Zeiss Sonnar 85/2.8, Zeiss Tessar 45/2.8, Zeiss Distagon 32/2.8, Tamron SP 35-80, Tamron SP 70-210, Soligor Macro 35-70, Vivitar 100-300, Mamiya-Sekor 65/4.5, Mamiya-Sekor 180/4.5, Zeiss Pantar 45/2.8

[poilu]

1B
2A
3B
4A

funny I am at the exact opposite of Laurence
I need a long way
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Have a nice day

[Orio]

So far, we have had:

- 2 perfectly split verdicts (2-2)
- 1 "full house" verdict (4-0)
- 2 majority verdicts (3-1), but... one for each lens!



really funny I will make more
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ХОРИОС-61 ( ώρεος ) : Lens sana in corpore sano

Main Tools:
LENSES: Carl Zeiss, Leitz, Soviet, old Nikkors, others.
DSLR: Canon EOS 5D, 50D. SLR: Contax AX, RX, 167MT; Voigtländer Bessaflex TM; Praktica FX2; Nikon FM2, F70.
RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Kiev-4, Voigtlaender Bessa-T, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta, Agfa Record II.
Read Full List HERE
www.timelessphotography.eu
www.oriofoto.net

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[Orio]

OK, no more entries apparently, so here's the solution:

The two lenses are Flektogon 2.4/35 "aus Jena" and Distagon 2.8/35 AE version (I used the AE version because the comparison seemed more fair towards the Flek, as the two lenses are contemporary, while the MM version of Distagon, which I also have, is later, and probably better).

This was the distribution:

Flektogon : ABBB
Distagon : BAAA (obviously)

Congratulations to Carsten who was the only one to choose all 4 entries from one lens. It was not easy, especially not knowing the lenses. For me it's easy to tell one from the other, but I know both lenses well. To choose all 4 entries from one lens was NOT the purpose of the game, but still, it shows a good solidity of vision of aesthetical preferences.

Here's the results, subdivided:

Distagon 2 - 2 Flektogon (2 chosen each) = 2

- Richard (Flek-Dist-Flek-Dist)
- Andy (Flek-Flek-Dist-Dist)

Flektogon 3 - 1 Distagon = 1

- Laurence (Flek-Flek-Dist-Flek)

Distagon 3 - 1 Flektogon = 1

- poilu (Dist-Dist-Flek-Dist)

Distagon 4 - 0 Flektogon = 1

- Carsten

Preferences for each entry:

match 1 = Flek 3 Dist 2
match 2 = Dist 3 Flek 2
match 3 = Dist 3 Flek 2
match 4 = Dist 4 Flek 1

As you can see, all matches has been very close, except for the last one. No match was won to zero (loser always scored at least one point.

Total preferences:

Flektogon = 8 equal to 40%
Distagon = 12 equal to 60%

In the final count, the Distagon wins by 4 preferences which means 60% percentage.
I think we can call this a close match and the Flek surely held the comparison very well.
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ХОРИОС-61 ( ώρεος ) : Lens sana in corpore sano

Main Tools:
LENSES: Carl Zeiss, Leitz, Soviet, old Nikkors, others.
DSLR: Canon EOS 5D, 50D. SLR: Contax AX, RX, 167MT; Voigtländer Bessaflex TM; Praktica FX2; Nikon FM2, F70.
RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Kiev-4, Voigtlaender Bessa-T, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta, Agfa Record II.
Read Full List HERE
www.timelessphotography.eu
www.oriofoto.net

"Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " (George Orwell)
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[poilu]

conclusion
- the flek is a very nice lens
- it is time for Carsten to invest in a few distagon
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[LucisPictor]

Now I can see the images better, but my preferences would be the same.