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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: Apo-Telyt-R 180 (Chris' visit) |
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Orio wrote:
One picture from the Leitz Apo-Telyt-R 180mm, to show how incredible this lens is.
Note that the picture was taken wide open:
Castell'Arquato:
I don't know what was going on with the stomach of the old guy.
My latest and so far most believable guess is that he had some Giger's alien inside.
Now here's three 100% crops for your pixel peeping pleasure:
Pretty amazing for handheld wide open isn't it? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
WOW!!
Nice portrait, very good one. Exposure, excelent. Skin, shoes, Tshirt, trousers, all OK. I like it.
And the lens? Well you know what.
Handheld shot?? Grrrrrr!!!!
We will stay in this forum when you begin to need a tree or a wall near to shot.
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Another example that shows how amazing these 180mm Leica lenses are - all of them.
The APO-Telyt was said to be the best tele lens in the world (even better than any Zeiss tele) until the APO-Summicron arrived. Tests in German magazines exploded with exaltation and judged a ringing 10 out of 10 points for both optical quality and built for the "APO-Cron".
And before the APO-era, the Elmarit 180 and the Elmar 180 were top of the notch teles. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Wow, quite a nice lens. Amazing. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:11 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Totally stunning. I think I shall throw mine away.
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dakoo
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 603
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: |
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dakoo wrote:
OMG !!
That is stunning. Superb results:) _________________ Yashica ML 2.4/24, ML 2.4./28,
Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4, Planer 1.4/50, Planer 1.7/50,
SMC Tak 1.4/50,Tessar 2.8/50, Jupiter2/85
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
This is the longest lens you need.
As the crop shows, it can replace any good 300mm or even 400mm lens.
Perhaps not the ones that cost thousands of Euros, but any normal super tele is replaced by this Leica and PP crops. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Amazing results!!! |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Thank you MUCH for posting these Orio. Man, talk about CLEAN images - the APO lens is certainly a top-of-the-line performer.
Can you give me the elements of this lens that make it perform so well? I would assume that being an apochromatic corrected lens has SOME bearing on performance, but are there other factors as well?
Best,
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Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
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Contax AX
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Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Stunning! _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Laurence wrote: |
Thank you MUCH for posting these Orio. Man, talk about CLEAN images - the APO lens is certainly a top-of-the-line performer.
Can you give me the elements of this lens that make it perform so well? I would assume that being an apochromatic corrected lens has SOME bearing on performance, but are there other factors as well?
Best,
Laurence (Larry) |
There is a story of special glass behind it, Larry. The lens is a relatively old design for an apo lens (half of the 70s), and apparently was commissioned to Leica by the US Navy, for military use. Which means (my guess) that the lens was probably designed well before the release date of 1975.
The lens was designed to perform best wide open, and, in fact, as you can see from my sample, that is what it does.
For the whole story, please read the article by Marco Cavina, which also goes into detail about how the glass was melted:
http://www.luciolepri.it/lc2/marcocavina/articoli_fotografici/Leitz_Apo-Telyt_180mm_glass/00_pag.htm
The above is the original Italian article, you can get a Google English translation here:
http://tinyurl.com/y8shke8
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
100 per cent quality!
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
For the whole story, please read the article by Marco Cavina,
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This guy seems to have a vast knowledge. Orio, you should try to get in touch with him and invite him to this forum. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
For the whole story, please read the article by Marco Cavina,
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This guy seems to have a vast knowledge. Orio, you should try to get in touch with him and invite him to this forum. |
I already did. He answered that he's very busy producing images for the microstock market and has no time to spend on forums. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
LucisPictor wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
For the whole story, please read the article by Marco Cavina,
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This guy seems to have a vast knowledge. Orio, you should try to get in touch with him and invite him to this forum. |
I already did. He answered that he's very busy producing images for the microstock market and has no time to spend on forums. |
Oh, what a pity! Thanks for your commitment, Orio.
Well, it seems that he needs to work for his money. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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timo832000
Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Germany / Cologne
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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timo832000 wrote:
Yes this lens is unbeliveable, i would love to see more pictures taken with it.
I think one day i will change my good Elmarit 180 into an Apo Telyt because it`s even better.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Marco with some friends has just founded the Leica Historical Society of Italy, so also that keeps him busy. And it would be a very one-sided relationship for him, I dare to say, since he would be always the one to answer plenty of questions - is that really that challenging? Discussing at about equal level, where both sides have a benefit is much more rewarding. _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
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Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
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Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:50 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Marco with some friends has just founded the Leica Historical Society of Italy, so also that keeps him busy. And it would be a very one-sided relationship for him, I dare to say, since he would be always the one to answer plenty of questions - is that really that challenging? Discussing at about equal level, where both sides have a benefit is much more rewarding. |
OK, but we might have some information that he doesn't.
That is still possible... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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zewrak
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:56 am Post subject: |
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zewrak wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I already did. He answered that he's very busy producing images for the microstock market and has no time to spend on forums. |
There are still photographers that makes pictures? Amazing. _________________ My homepage, all manual shots |
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