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tammyb
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:10 pm Post subject: Any tip on artistic lenses? |
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tammyb wrote:
Does anyone have any tips on artistic lenses? Lenses that gives strange bokeh? |
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Get an old Petzval or Pentac and create an adapter for your camera. Really, any brass tube lens ought to work okay.
Also, if you use a telephoto zoom with a macro setting (Vivitar 75-150 and Focal 80-200, for instance), the bokeh goes all swirly and seizure-inducing.
Alternately, you can cut shapes out of black paper and tape them to cruddy UV filters (simply as a vehicle) and then the images' bokeh will take the shape of whatever you cut into the paper. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Kodak Cine Ektar 63mm f2
http://forum.mflenses.com/kodak-cine-ektar-63mm-f2-military-t53845,highlight,%2Bkodak+%2Bcine+%2Bektar.html _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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fuzzywuzzy
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 1258 Location: Down East, Canada, eh?
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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fuzzywuzzy wrote:
Some suggestions:
low budget - http://forum.mflenses.com/helios-44-2-2-58-t38230.html
medium budget - http://forum.mflenses.com/meyer-trioplan-2-8-100mm-t39248.html
high budget - http://forum.mflenses.com/helios-40-craze-t19605.html _________________ I welcome C&C, editing my pics and reposting them on the forum is fine.
NEX-F3
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CZJ Sonnar 135/4, Biotar 58/2, Pancolar 50/2, Tessar 50/2.8, Flek 35/2.8, Flek 25/4
Super Takumar 135/2.5, 135/3.5, 100/4 bellows, 50/1.4, 28/3.5
Helios 58/2, 3M-5A 500/8, Mir 20M
Vivitar Series 1 70-210 - - - - - - - - Nikkor 200/4
Rikenon 28/2.8 - - - - - - - - Zeiss 50/1.7 Planar
PB 50/2.4, 135/2.8
Yashica 50/1.9, 28/2.8, 135/2.8
Hexanon 28/3.5, 50/1.4 |
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Billou
Joined: 01 Feb 2013 Posts: 169 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Billou wrote:
You also have the Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9, with its exploding bokeh.
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 961 Location: Austin
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
Mamiya 2/50 also has swirly bokeh wide open.
If you want that toy camera blurred edges/sharp center look, find an Auxillary wide angle attachment, and flip the front element in it.
It has to be used on the front of a normal lense of course, but you'll get this effect:
There's also the Spiratone Portragon which gives a similar effect (and some old filters which don't do it as nicely). |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Meyer-Optik Görlitz Trioplan 2.8/100. I'm pretty sure this lens inspired Apple's Arabesque screen saver (Just don't buy it if you have hidden epilepsia.)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20110320/6069863999/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50093837@N05/4987188394/ |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Like that?
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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tammyb
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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tammyb wrote:
Woow, thank you all som very much!!!
Can I use all this lenses if i get an adapter? M42?
were do you buy your lenses? On ebay? |
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tammyb
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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tammyb wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Like that?
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Wonderful! |
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tammyb
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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tammyb wrote:
Billou wrote: |
You also have the Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9, with its exploding bokeh.
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really wonderful!!! |
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tammyb
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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tammyb wrote:
This lens i have, i love it |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Like that?
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Yes, I like it. Skilled photographer makes the difference. Every lens has smaller or larger weaknesses, and often weaknesses can be turned into strengths. In the end they're just brushes, every job has its tools. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Very well said!!
another type...
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I've had migraines that look like that! damn, that's weird bokeh! _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1247 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:35 am Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
The lovely chinon 55mm f 1.7 with learther grips (tomioko) design
Very cheap but renders impressionistic pics like Monet the newer Pentax mount version is also as interesting
The newer version below has more glow
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:59 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm used wide open at 35mm produces unique bokeh. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:03 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm used wide open at 35mm produces unique bokeh. |
Any dislike this type of bokeh too, but I like this unique property of this lens. |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
Diaplan / Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 would be my first reccomendation, too:
Much less easy too handle is the Sigma YS 135mm/2,8 lens - it could create Trioplan like bokeh too after a modification - but has the ability to make spherical under corrected bokeh as well. Much like the Nikon DC Nikkor lenses - bokeh control !
A lens with apodisation filter would be interessting to - such a smooth bokeh is very special. But sometimes it is distracting / unnatural.
There is only the Sony/Minolta 135mm/2.8 [4.5] STF lens. As an alternative one can build a DIY apodization lens.
The Vivitar 35mm f/1.9 seem to produce someting like the now expensive 28/1.9 lens.
Need to make more images with it.[/img] _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Canon Serenar 85mm:
Cooke kinic 1 inch:
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Wow.
Last bokeh is awesome
or tilt (on nex)
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Call me traditional, but I prefer my "artistic" lenses not to intrude into the image any more than is necessary. So I still prefer just good old fast lenses. Like 50/1.4s and /1.2s and 85/1.4s and /1.2s. And I can get by with most of the rest I own with some proper positioning.
Taken with my EOS XS (1000D), Canon FD 85mm f/1.2 SSC Aspherical @ f/1.2, with EOS-FD adapter, corrective element removed.
Often similar soft bokeh can be achieved with slower lenses by positioning the subject properly with respect to its background:
EOS XS, Canon FD 400mm f/4.5 @ f/4.5, FD-EOS adapter w/element removed:
Canon F-1, Tamron SP 60-300 f/3.8-5.4 @ ~ 5.4, Fujichrome Provia 100, duped with my XS and dupe rig:
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sbaechler
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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sbaechler wrote:
Get a Holga camera. It's the most fun and you will get beautiful images, (if they are in focus).
There is also a Holga lens for Nikon mount. I had one but wasn't happy with it. The Holga is a medium format camera and there the 60mm is a wide angle, while on FX or even DX it's quite long. It's also not sharp at all.
The camera is 30$ without flash and 50$ with flash, brand new. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I'm with Michael - Cooltouch on this, I like my bokeh smooooooooth. And for me it doesn't get much better that this from the Rollei Planar 50 1.8.
Machinery by Mudplugga, on Flickr
There's been a discussion on the Pentax Forums about the legendary Helios 44M swirly bokeh, and neither of mine seem to do the swirly thing to any great degree, there's some, but very very little. But I have a Chinon Auto Reflex 28 2.8 that swirls like crazy, so much that I rarely use it.
In a world of swirls. by Mudplugga, on Flickr _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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Srdjan
Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 316 Location: Nis
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Srdjan wrote:
For me one of very interesting and artistic bokeh is definitely Carl Zeiss Biometar 80 2.8 for P6. This lens is famoust my strange swirl bokeh. Goole it you will find more on this lens, but is very sharp and this effect is useful in photography as in video. _________________ Perfection is just another type of anomaly |
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