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hibernum
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 Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: Any recommendations for 85mm? |
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hibernum wrote:
I'm looking to try out a portrait lens, to see if I like it. I really wanted the Canon EF 85mm f1.8 but it is out of my price range. It looks like the options for an inexpensive manual focus portrait lens is rather limited. Nikon made a few, but they sell on ebay for almost as much as the Canon EF. I was surprised that Yashica didn't seem to make an ML in that range. Other than the Jupiter (which I might buy), are there other inexpensive options for adapting to Canon DSLR? |
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iridium
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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iridium wrote:
hello 
m42 lens:
- Jupiter-9 85mm f2
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
In the 100/135 mm range a lot of 3rd companies did this goods and inexpensive lenses. (eg. tamron, tokina, schneider, aetna, sigma, sankyo, makinon, hoya, etc) but no in the same leage that the canon and nikon.
In the 100 mm I had use the chinon tomioka M42 100/2,8 -inexpensive too. Not marvelous.
If the inexpensive is the important, the 135 CZJ (zebra or MC) is an excelent alternative in my taste. In fact, it's my option.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
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Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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iridium
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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iridium wrote:
there also a lot of takumar (m42): try a super takumar or smc takumar 135mm.
nice bokeh! |
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
hibernum: all 75-85 lenses are good (at least).
The cheapest are Jupiter-9 85/2 and Biometar 80/2.8 (P6). If you have luck, you can also find Vivitar 85/1.8 or M42 Biometar 80/2.8 for good price.
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Helios
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Helios wrote:
Steinheil Culminar 2,8/85mm , Meyer (Pentacon) Orestor 2,8/100, Pentax smc-Takumar 2,8/105mm are almost under $100 . Best one : smc-takumar 105mm .
Angénieux lenses are overpriced , overrated ...
If you can mount a MD/MC Minolta lens , try the Rokkor 2,5/100 ....
I use often smc-Takumar 1,8/85, Helios-40-2 ... 
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indianadinos
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indianadinos wrote:
Hello,
+1 for SMC Takumar 85/1.8 (really superb) and Meyer Orestor 100/2.8 (excellent contrast and sharpness) ...
Best regards
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Pentax-K: M28/2.8, K28/3.5, M50/1.4, A50/1.7, M50/4 Macro, K85/1.8, K105/2.8, K135/2.5, M200/4, M70-150/4
Zeiss: Flektogon 20/2.8, 20/4, 35/2.4, 35/2.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 58/2, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer: Primagon 35/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Orestor 135/2.8
Schacht/Steinheil: Travenar 90/2.8, Travenon 135/4.5, Quinar 135/2.8, Quinar 135/3.5
Russian: MIR 37B, Industar 50/3.5, Helios 44M & 44M-2, Jupiter 37A
P6: Flektogon 50/4, Biometar 80/2.8, Orestor 300/4
Nikkor: Nikkor-O 35/2, Micro 55/3.5, Nikkor-S 50/1.4, Nikkor-Q 135/2.8
Fuji: EBC 28/3.5, EBC 55/3.5 Macro, EBC 135/2.5
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
You can't go wrong with any 75-85mm lenses from any well known brands.
What is your maximum budget ?
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hibernum
Joined: 22 Dec 2008
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Location: Wisconsin
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hibernum wrote:
Attila,
I was hoping to spend less than 70 dollars, and through my ebay watching it doesn't look like that will happen. The old 85mm f2 Nikkor goes for more than 100 regularly, sometimes I see them go for 200. For a few dollars more I could just get the Canon EF 85mm f1.8. Looks like it is back to soup for lunch for me. |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
70 USD is hope less for problem free good lens. 85mm highly respected focal length. Perhaps you can take lens with scratch what is not impact anything in most cases. One of my best buy was SMC Pentax 85mm f1.8 PK for 25 USD , because front lens broken at edge. Surely not impact anything silly people won't take it due problem. So look as-is , faulty lenses if you won't over spend on limit.
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Oh. I forgot that my flektogon 20/4 has haze (or vestiges of fungus) in the edge, but I bought is 'cos was the first that i SAW IN 18 years. After this I bought three more and the oldiest lens with haze or ex-fungus was the better for my.
Rino.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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PaulC
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PaulC wrote:
You might get an 80mm biometar attached to a broken Pentacon Six - there's one going in eight hours on e-bay - auction 290289654417- , currently at $38, but then you have to buy the adapter. If you did get that camera, you might be able to sell the non-metering prism separately, or maybe get the curtains repaired and have a working camera. I got a working P6, with Tessar 2.8/80, prism and waist level finder for less than $100 a month or two back.
There is also a Trioplan 100 in M42 fit with bids around $65 but you will be lucky if that doesn't go higher.
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yalcinaydin
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yalcinaydin wrote:
Nikkor 1.8/85 and Carl Zeiss Sonnar 2.8/85 performs great on my 5D.
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
I can only recommend local markets, auctions, second-hands... 
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
1. Nikkor 1.8/85
2. Volna-3
3. Pancolar 1.8/80
But for under $70?
Perhaps the Jupiter-9 2.0/85.
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peterqd wrote:
For $70 the M42 Jupiter-9 is probably the best bet. Or you might be able to find a Vega-12b 2.8/85 within that price limit (P6/Kiev 60/Kiev 88CM mount, not Kiev 88/Salyut), but you'll need a P6>EOS or P6>M42 adapter to go with it. Alternatively you might consider the Tamron SP35-80 or SP28-80 Adaptall zooms, which take a lot of beating.
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I had the Volna 3 80/2.8 for a short while. Great lens, but sold it when I got my Tamron 90/2.5 macro which is also great.
As Peter's mentioned zooms, the Vivitar Series 1 35-85 if you can get it at the right price is a fine portrait lens. |
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KhanX
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KhanX wrote:
In your budget, Helios 85/2 is the best suitable and it's worth all bucks you spend for it.
Cheers. 
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
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In your budget, Helios 85/2 is the best suitable and it's worth all bucks you spend for it.
Cheers. |
You'd have to sell a kidney to afford one of those.
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
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In your budget, Helios 85/2 is the best suitable and it's worth all bucks you spend for it.
Cheers. |
You'd have to sell a kidney to afford one of those. |
Really? He mentioned a Helios 85/2 so it is a lens that does not exist
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peterqd
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peterqd wrote:
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In your budget, Helios 85/2 is the best suitable and it's worth all bucks you spend for it.
Cheers. |
For US$70 ??? Tell me where please.
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peterm1
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peterm1 wrote:
The SMC Takumar 85mm f1.8 is top notch and the earlier auto Takumar version is pretty good too. The Nikkor 85mm f1.8 is great in all its versions but highly sought after and tends to be more pricey than you would expect for aold glass. Others have mentioned both the Takumar 105mm f2.8 and Nikkor 105mm f2.5 as alternatives in a slightly loger focal length and I can vouch for these too. Excellent glass.
In Leica mount the Jupiter is a nice lens too, while many also say the M42 mount version is excellent. I have not tried the latter but if the Leica mount version is anything to go by then its well worth owning..... And super cheap by ocmparison.
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PaulC
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PaulC wrote:
He might already have that broken Pentacon Six and Biometar I pointed out - someone got it for $65. If he sells the case and the prism he should be able to get a P6 - EOS adapter and still have some change in his pocket.
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Anacondo
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Anacondo wrote:
I can't recommend the Nikkor 85mm f/2 enough. Sharp and contrasty from f/2, compact and light. A bitch to focus at f/2, but the results are well worth it. I can post some samples if you want. |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
2/85mm a fine lens and pretty cheap too.
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