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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: a couple of fall pix |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I really hate posting these next to Peter's excellent set, but here goes.
The first one is my first effort in rolling my own black and white. I
have never liked the one button conversion to greyscale:
the obligatory leaf change:
and back to the first one in its original technicolor:
This is using the $7.99 35-70mm f3.5 Tammie zoom (non-SP rated).
Bill
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Both are excellent capture I like them! _________________ -------------------------------
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Attila. If I ever post something that sucks, I want to hear that,
too.
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I don't think so anybody post "sucks" , here everybody post carefully selected pictures. So I don't think so you will ever hear strongly negative critics _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Bill,
the first one, B&W version, is one of the best pictures I ever saw here.
I want a print of it!! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: Re: a couple of fall pix |
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peterqd wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
I really hate posting these next to Peter's excellent set, but here goes.
The first one is my first effort in rolling my own black and white. I
have never liked the one button conversion to greyscale:
This is using the $7.99 35-70mm f3.5 Tammie zoom (non-SP rated).
Bill |
The impression I had of my set was far from excellent, Bill. Apart from that one shot I thought the rest sucked - it just goes to show you never see things the way others do. Thankyou.
I don't understand what you mean by "rolling my own".
Nice shots - that Tamron was certainly a good bargain! |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Peter, the one carousel shot makes up for a whole bunch! Plus let's look
at degree of difficulty: you developed these and scanned them, I know
I'm impressed! I hope to be looking across the table at high tea, but as
of yet, I haven't started my own developing.
Orio, come on, your two pics of the boy with the Leica lens, now that's
hot! (And I don't look anything like Paris Hilton)
Bill |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: Re: a couple of fall pix |
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Katastrofo wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
I don't understand what you mean by "rolling my own".
Nice shots - that Tamron was certainly a good bargain! |
Peter, in CS3 you go to adjustments>black and white, and a window
pops up to where you can adjust the different colors to make your
own custom black and white version. This one is a lot more contrasty
than simply hitting the greyscale conversion.
Your adaptall 2 is on this lens!
Bill |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I'm not joking!!!
It has drama, the lighting almost lateral is perfect, so perfect it even looks fake (like cinema lighting), the black silhouette is powerful in the contrast with the shining bright of the morning (?) grass, the balance of the two black masses is perfect, but the GOD touch, the one that makes the whole special, is that motion blurred leg, and just THAT one! The others are still.
That leg makes the PUNCTUM of the image (to use Roland Barthes' terminology), and it represent the dynamical center of strenght of the image.
And look at the perception of depth along the perspective of the line of trees!
The only, minor reserve I have: I would have cropped a bit the dark bottom, up to the point where the first slightly brighter patch of grass appears.
Listen, if this photo is not a great one, then I AM AN IDIOT, because this is a great photo if I eve saw one!!
Like I said, I would like a print from it.
Autographed! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio,
It was 8:30 in the morning, the sun slanting through the trees, so I ran
and got my camera. These are black angus, coal black cows, prized for
their beef (I seldom eat beef anymore). I posted this same pic at APF
and mentioned the very same thing about the right foreleg of the first
cow being slightly blurred. There were snickers of headless and tailless
cows, but one of the guys said he liked the BW version.
I will experiment with the crop and see what goes. I will open this
version and take down the numbers to all the colors, as I think I
handrolled it just about perfect for the shot (at least on my monitor).
My printer is not the best, but I have a friend in California that has a
very nice Epson, I could send the file to him for printing.
Thanks for the compliments, but a lot of it is luck, being there at the
right time, the right light, etc etc.
Bill |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:19 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
There were snickers of headless and tailless
cows |
Puerile idiots! I didn't even notice about the heads and tails, although I did try to work out which way the animal is facing - is the head hidden by the body or is it just blending into the blackness. Doesn't matter, I think it's a good shot too. I agree about the leg - even though it's a still photograph, it's action-packed! |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
My printer is not the best, but I have a friend in California that has a
very nice Epson, I could send the file to him for printing. |
I was thinking about this, we can exchange prints if you like. You choose one photograph of mine that you like, and I make it printed and autographed for you. You do the same for me. We exchange signed "artistic souvenirs" like painters use to do.
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Thanks for the compliments, but a lot of it is luck, being there at the
right time, the right light, etc etc. |
Want to know my theory about the best three qualities of a photographer?
Maybe it's time I make it public.
So here it is:
THE BEST THREE QUALITIES OF A PHOTOGRAPHER:
1- SOME AVAILABLE MONEY (to buy good equipment)
2- A GOOD DOSE OF LUCK (to happen to be in the right place at the right time with the right camera and lens)
3- A WHOLE LOT OF FREE TIME (which increases the chances of #2 - but at the same time, decreases the chances for #1, so here's the main conflict for all photographers).
Of course this is a provocation as the artistic aspects are not considered, but they are fundamental.
However, I think that being a provocation, it still contains a good amount of truth
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peterqd
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:23 am Post subject: Re: a couple of fall pix |
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peterqd wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Peter, in CS3 you go to adjustments>black and white, and a window pops up to where you can adjust the different colors to make your own custom black and white version. This one is a lot more contrasty than simply hitting the greyscale conversion. |
Ah, I only have CS2 (thank you Attila )
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Your adaptall 2 is on this lens!
Bill |
I just KNEW there was something special about it! |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio, if I can chose any one of yours, it will take some time, as they
are all so good! What size to print? 8x10, or bigger?
Bill |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Peter, thanks again for that adaptall! Whenever I get a Nikon D40, I
can use that lens!
Bill |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Orio, if I can chose any one of yours, it will take some time, as they
are all so good! What size to print? 8x10, or bigger?
Bill |
I think that the standard size of 20x30 centimeters (don't know the inches equivalent) can be a decent compromise between size and portability.
It can also be fit inside a envelope if sandwiched between two cardboards (without the need of buying expensive shipping tubes).
Maybe we can make the exchange for Christmas time
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Sounds good to me, Christmas it is!
Oh, but then I'll have to giftwrap it, too! I'm kidding.
Bill |
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