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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
mo wrote:
Thanks for offering,I have busted my lens buying budget for the next month or so. As I am also waiting on a G1 ,the main reason I am now looking into other lenses, other than M42. Embarassed Rolling Eyes Laughing I will keep your offer in mind as the Auto tak and two tone pentax lenses look good on my K-01 (the black and silver one)

I just realized the 100/3.5 I am talking about has the breechlock/FD/FL mount not a rangefinder mount. I assume image quality will still be about the same? Embarassed


have fun with your G1, and yes, I believe that the optics of the 3.5/100 LTM and FL are the same, at least at 'Canonmuseum' I read that both have 5 elements in 4 groups, one difference I can make out is that the LTM has 10 aperture blades, the FL 6
'CanonCameramuseum', a great source, see the 'lens hall': http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/


PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nordentro wrote:
Very nice collection you have there!! Very Happy

I love theses old Canon LTM lenses. How is the 35mm f2 against the f/1.8?!? Surprised

Here is my slowly growing collection (we only share two lenses from what I can see)


aren't they beautiful, great collection Lars!
so it's only the 1.8/50 and 3.5/100 that we share? Tell me, what's the one top right? Is it one of the 85mm?? Also in the first row, what's the one in the middle and to the right, the one to the right, is it the f3.5/28mm?

Photos taken with the f1.8 and f2/35 look quite different, the f1.8 has very little contrast while the f2 has very strong contrast and more saturated colors, both are sharp even from wide open, at least in the center. As I have these lenses only since a short while this is just an initial impression, Dante Stella has more to say: http://www.dantestella.com/technical/canoleic.html
another very good guide for Canon rangefinder lenses, though I am certain you know all those, right? http://antiquecameras.net/canonrflens.html

cheers, andreas


PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
BurstMox wrote:
Those little Canon are very nice.


I really like them Smile
well, I also would love old Nikkor, Topcor, Minolta asf. rangefinder lenses, but these, generally speaking, are even rarer and more expensive again


PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Beautiful collections a joy to see them, thank you for sharing!


most welcome Attila! I wished I had the f3.5/25mm, f2.8/28mm, f1.8/85mm and f2/100mm too Wink other mflens members do have those and I have seen great samples taken with them


PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you Andreas, I have also used the pages you refer too, very handy Wink

It is the 85mm f2 in the back, and the 50mm f/1.5 and the 25mm f/3.5 in the front.
Happy shooting! Very Happy

Cheers
Lars


PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Awesome Shocked Shocked
You guys are far beyond what I have of Canon Ltm collection, which are: 50/1.2, 50/1.4, 50/1.8 and 135/3.5.


PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It`s a good start Hoan Wink

Best bang for the bucks of what I have IMO is the 100mm f/3,5 v2 and the 50mm f/1.8 v2


PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nordentro wrote:
Thank you Andreas, I have also used the pages you refer too, very handy Wink

It is the 85mm f2 in the back, and the 50mm f/1.5 and the 25mm f/3.5 in the front.
Happy shooting! Very Happy

Cheers
Lars


ohh, three lenses I am most curious about:
thought for the 85mm I'd prefer the f1.8, less heavy, possibly better but...even more costly
the f1.5/50, for it's Sonnar scheme, was the very first Canon RF lens I had wanted and which had made me aware of Canon RF lenses, but I still don't have it. ( alternatively the 'Sonnar' Nikkor 1.4/50, if in Nikon RF / Contax with luck even affordable, but I don't like that mount much ) I am very curious how you like yours!
the 25mm of course is very attractive, but my CV 4/25 and 2 Pen-F 25mm lenses makes me less desparate Wink

hoanpham wrote:
Awesome Shocked Shocked
You guys are far beyond what I have of Canon Ltm collection, which are: 50/1.2, 50/1.4, 50/1.8 and 135/3.5.


nice Smile
How do you compare your 3 50s? The 1.8/50 was my first Canon RF lens, and, even though mine is slightly defect, it impressed me well enough to make me even more curious about other Canon RF lenses. I have not much experience using the 1.4/50 yet, so far it impresses me very much!

Nordentro wrote:
It`s a good start Hoan Wink

Best bang for the bucks of what I have IMO is the 100mm f/3,5 v2 and the 50mm f/1.8 v2


yes! ..and no! Yes, they are great performers and rel. cheap, but no if one is not careful enough, just like me: These two lenses seem to be those which more often than other Canon RF lenses suffer from a milky, internal lens element that can't be repaired. I have bought 2 copies of each and all 4 are effected, the two 100mm to an extent that makes them rather unusable, at least one of my 1.8/50 is..just ok.


PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The 85mm is very heavy indeed, but I just love the early silver lineup Very Happy

My favorite 50mm of what I have is the f/1.8 like you have. The f/1.5 is very attractive too with beautiful Sonnar bokeh but not as sharp as the f/1.8.

I guess I must have been lucky with my lenses because I have not had any milky/ foggy lenses besides the 135mm f/4 Serenar which has some clouds on an inner element.

The 100mm f/3.5 v2 is the silver and black version and I like this lens slightly better than the black v3 (like you have). IQ is more or less the same with same lens design 5/4, but the lens itself is smaller and lighter. This lens also has not the problem with stopping down = turns the focus ring like the v3. First version of this lens was a triotar type 3/3.

The 25mm is a very good performer, but have some issues with collor shift on the A7R. This lens will hopefully be better with new sensors in the future. Do you know if Pen-F 25mm covers FF sensors? Surprised


PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nordentro wrote:
The 85mm is very heavy indeed, but I just love the early silver lineup Very Happy


I can see that and they do look fantastic! However I try to cheat myself thinking that I purely buy lenses because they are 'more practical', not because they are beauitiful Wink

Nordentro wrote:


My favorite 50mm of what I have is the f/1.8 like you have. The f/1.5 is very attractive too with beautiful Sonnar bokeh but not as sharp as the f/1.8.


I may try to get yet another, clean copy, resp. my Serenar copy is clean and is said to have the same optical formula. Do you know if their performance is said to differ or to be rather identical?

Nordentro wrote:

I guess I must have been lucky with my lenses because I have not had any milky/ foggy lenses besides the 135mm f/4 Serenar which has some clouds on an inner element.

The 100mm f/3.5 v2 is the silver and black version and I like this lens slightly better than the black v3 (like you have). IQ is more or less the same with same lens design 5/4, but the lens itself is smaller and lighter. This lens also has not the problem with stopping down = turns the focus ring like the v3. First version of this lens was a triotar type 3/3.


oh, ok this is very good to know! In case I try yet once again to get a good 3.5/100 I shall go for the v2.

Nordentro wrote:

The 25mm is a very good performer, but have some issues with collor shift on the A7R. This lens will hopefully be better with new sensors in the future. Do you know if Pen-F 25mm covers FF sensors? Surprised


hopefully! I don't know if the 25mm Pen-Fs cover FF, I guess there will be heavy vignetting but my guess is based on your very report on how well the other Pen-F lenses cover your A7r you had published here. I am expecting a visit of a friend carrying his A7 coming week, I should remember to try out

best greetings, andreas


PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wowowowowow! All yours?? WOW! Shocked

(Another reason for me to travel to Vienna. Wink)


PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
Wowowowowow! All yours?? WOW! Shocked


Embarassed

LucisPictor wrote:

(Another reason for me to travel to Vienna. Wink)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OjXQEQuPsg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyRPH0cfMeg&list=RDJyRPH0cfMeg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZdiXvDU4P0

Very Happy


PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Andreas,

So far I have used 50/1.2 and 50/1.4. My copy of 50/1.8 has stiff focus, cracked element, and slightly fungus.

The 50/1.2 is among the sharpest I have at f1.2, but the one that gives best contrast at f1.2. Only thing it has as cons is MFD=1m, while the other f1.2 has 0,45m or a bit closer. Best is at f2.

The 50/1.4 is among the sharpest too, but also gives almost zeiss colors, bokeh is smoother than 50/1.4 MM C/Y.

They are just lovely. I like best the size on A7R.


PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just got a 100/3.5, which unfortunately has the cloudy element issue - not overly bad, but wide open the contrast is very low. Great sharpness though. My first Canon RF is the 50/1.8 which I love!

Canon RF 100/3.5 on Bessa R by Nesster, on Flickr
Fed 3 - Canon 50/1.8 - Gossen Pilot by Nesster, on Flickr


PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
wonderful sets! BTW who knows the meaning of CANON in fact?? Wink


PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
monkjason wrote:
wonderful sets! BTW who knows the meaning of CANON in fact?? Wink


I remember having read somewhere that it comes from the Japanese Kannon or Kwanon. This is the good/ess of Mercy or Loving Compassion called Avalekiteshwara in the original Sanskrt, Quan Yin ( so many different transcriptions ) in China and of which the Dalai Lama is a manifestation for Tibeteans.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
monkjason wrote:
wonderful sets! BTW who knows the meaning of CANON in fact?? Wink


I remember having read somewhere that it comes from the Japanese Kannon or Kwanon. This is the good/ess of Mercy or Loving Compassion called Avalekiteshwara in the original Sanskrt, Quan Yin ( so many different transcriptions ) in China and of which the Dalai Lama is a manifestation for Tibeteans.

great answer! Wink
it should be "Guan Yin" in Chinese and "Kwanon" in Japanese, which has been well described in your answer.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
do most of the photos in this thread only not load for me, or can't you see them neither?
if so please tell me and I shall edit my posts, trying to make them appear again

the Canon LTM f2/35 on NEX5n and Ricoh GXR M





PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
pics are lost - please reload them


PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
wolfhansen wrote:
pics are lost - please reload them


thank's!
now I edited my posts, and instead of uploading them to mfleses, now host those file that are available via flickr
hopefully Lars will notice and edit his postings, to again show his lenses, too


PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Top!

Here´s my Canon LTM 1.2/50mm on my NEX-6



PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:21 pm    Post subject: 4 more Canon LTMs Reply with quote
4 more Canon LTMs

the short teles, f1.8/85mm, f1.9/85mm and f2/100mm:



the full set of the f1.9/85mm Serenar



and the f1.5/50mm:



( all taken with Pen-F Zuiko f1.4/40mm on NEX5n )


PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good to see you get the 100mm F2. Smile


PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
wolfhansen wrote:
pics are lost - please reload them


thank's!
now I edited my posts, and instead of uploading them to mfleses, now host those file that are available via flickr
hopefully Lars will notice and edit his postings, to again show his lenses, too


I will look after my pic Wink

Edit: My pic is back, and wow! You`re still buying LTM Canons! Nice, you`ve got a very nice linup know... Congratz! Very Happy
How is the 85 1.8 compared to the silver 1.9?


PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kuuan - how does the 85/1.8 compare with the 100/2? I have the 100/2 and think it's absolutely great. I fancy getting the 85/1.8 but have read it suffers from focus shift when closing down from f1.8. As I use mine on an M8 that could be a problem, IF it's actually the case. I've never seen any problem on my 100/2, I must say, nor on my 'heavy' 85/2.
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