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Cobalt60
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 Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: 12mm Fish ... |
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.... anyone ever heard of a 12mm f8 "Berolina" Fish?
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Orio
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Ballu
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Cobalt60
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Indeed - that Sigma seems to be the base model.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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If old Sigma model that means for me unusable garbage. I disappointed about old Sigma lenses.
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | If old Sigma model that means for me unusable garbage. I disappointed about old Sigma lenses. |
When we meet one day, I will bring and you can try my Sigma Theta 28-85 (M42). This is an amazing zoom lens. Of course, it does not get to where the best primes are, but it is much better than I expected.
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Orio
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| LucisPictor wrote: |
When we meet one day, I will bring and you can try my Sigma Theta 28-85 (M42). This is an amazing zoom lens. Of course, it does not get to where the best primes are, but it is much better than I expected. |
I can say the same about my Sigma Delta zoom, actually. Stopped down it's amazing. The problem is that wide open it's unuseable because of vignetting. It becomes useable only from f/8.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It becomes useable only from f/8. |
This means for me guys, crapy! In this focal length usable only from f8 ?
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
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Cobalt60
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| Talking about that fish: yes. And you can't focus it because it's a fixed focus ... |
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Sorry Carsten If I say something wrong, I didn't want to hurt anybody , just I don't like much old Sigma products.
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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Seymore
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Looks to me like a Spiratone/Accura 12mm f/8 with waterhouse stops (f/8, 11 & 16). Looks something like THIS. It's also a T-mount and my copy was at best quite soft even when pod'd. And you really do need good light to shoot with this lens. But I did get $175 USD for my copy.
It was a fun toy to play with but I wanted a FE with more aperture control. I gave up 4mm (now have a Nikkor 16/2.8 AIS FE) but have more light control.
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