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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3132 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:38 pm Post subject: Zuiko 28mm f/3.5 vs SMC Pentax 28mm f/3.5 new tests |
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caspert79 wrote:
I did a quick (infinity) comparison earlier between these two lenses, although the weather was pretty bad that time, and I didn't take into account CA, flare and close focus performance.
So here is a new test. Let's start at (near) infinity. Focus is on the first line of trees. I searched in the image where I found the worst CA performance, and this is where I did the CA comparison.
nearinfinity comparisonwith CA by devoscasper, on Flickr
In general, we see a bit more saturated and contrasty image, but the Zuiko image does not look bad at all. There is some CA wide open with the Zuiko, but really nothing severe (remember this is on a 42+ mp sensor). CA performance of the Pentax however, is near perfect wide open. Both lenses do very good in this regard when stopped down to f/5.6 and smaller. The Pentax draws this area of extreme contrast a bit better. In my earlier test I found that the Zuiko reaches sharpness in the corners a bit faster than the Pentax. I think that is the case in this test as well, although the difference is minimal, and the Pentax shows better contrast it seems. The Pentax has multicoated optics, whereas the Zuiko hasn't so no surprise.
Then, a flare test. Light source is a Nanlite FS-150 with a snoot attached. I included two extra lenses as a reference. I made sure to use no UV-filters, because these negatively influenced flare performance.
flarecomparison by devoscasper, on Flickr
The Pentax did best, but the Zuiko is not too bad actually, as this is about the maximum I could provoke. There are creative possibilities with the Zuiko here as well.
Then, close focus test:
closefocuscomparison by devoscasper, on Flickr
You don't really buy these lenses for bokeh, but I didn't notice a significant difference between the two. Also, both lenses are very sharp at this close focusing distance @ f/3.5 and f/5.6, so nothing to complain.
Conclusion: the multi-coated Pentax did a bit better in most respects than the Zuiko, but the Zuiko did a very respectable job. The Zuiko is also a very sharp lens, both @ infinity and close distance. It is only single coated, but did a solid job when is comes to CA performance. Flare is present, when the Zuiko is pointed at a strong light source, but not in an image-ruining way. It certainly performs better than I anticipated. If you want to travel as light as possible, the Zuiko would also be a good option IMO, as it weights only 170 grams, whereas the Pentax weights 262 grams. The Pentax does more than a great job IMO for a vintage lens, and remains my favorite 28 for now. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10956 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
For tests!
Nice to see the flower arrangement "in situ". https://forum.mflenses.com/flowers-with-mamiya-sekor-c-zoom-75-150mm-f-4-5-t85400.html
SMC Pentax K 1:3.5 / 28mm has the same optics as M42 Asahi Optical Co., Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 1:3.5 / 28. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3132 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Yeah, my wife is also happy with my hobby. . About the Pentax: Actually it’s not. Although most K lenses inherited the optics of their M42 S-M-C Takumar predecessors, this is not the case for the SMC Pentax 28mm f/3.5. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10956 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
M42:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/S-M-C-Super-Takumar-28mm-F3.5.html
K:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-K-28mm-F3.5-Lens.html
_________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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D1N0
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
It is not for nothing that Leica shooters have also discovered the Pentax, on of mine even came with an Leica m-mount adapter (but that had haze or separation in the cemented element that blew out my corners, so I had to get another one) _________________ pentaxian |
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alex_d
Joined: 19 Jan 2019 Posts: 377
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
try fujica 28 / 3.5 on ax mount, they are very very good and quite cheap (or were) too.
in my book that leans beats diverse yashicas (even ml 2, canon fdn 28, konica 28/3.5 and what ever i have from older glass - i dont have rokkor / pentax. _________________ for sale: smc super takumar 135/2.5 M42, Yash ML 50/1/4, Yash DS-M 50/1.4 M42, Yash ML 21/3.5, Yash auto 50/2.8, Mir-1 37/2.5 (new!), Jupiter-9 M42+M39(new!), Jupiter-11 135, FD 100/2.8, Konishiroku Konica 100/2.8, Fujinon T 100/2.8(M42/XF), Minolta PF 58/1.4 + 1.7, Meyer O.G. 100/2.8, Meyer O.G. 50/1.8, Meyer O.G. Lydith 30/3.5, Meyer O.G. Domi 50/2.8 ... and many more |
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BrianSVP
Joined: 09 Jun 2023 Posts: 335 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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BrianSVP wrote:
The formula's a bit different, but the S-M-C Tak version is still a great lens.
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3132 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:15 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
alex_d wrote: |
try fujica 28 / 3.5 on ax mount, they are very very good and quite cheap (or were) too.
in my book that leans beats diverse yashicas (even ml 2, canon fdn 28, konica 28/3.5 and what ever i have from older glass - i dont have rokkor / pentax. |
Interesting, thank you. Do you have a picture of the lens? I don’t know if there are multiple versions? |
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1162 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
Thanks for running this.
The zuiko exhibits a bit of glow along the edges, but nothing major. I like it's contrast levels over the k-pentax- which in some cases can be a matter of personal taste.
I had a Zuiko 35 here for a while, with nothing to mount it on. Very well put together lens, and a smooth focus.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
"Ain't no half-way" -S.R.V.
"Oh Yeah... Alright" -Paul Simon |
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alex_d
Joined: 19 Jan 2019 Posts: 377
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:30 am Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
[img]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ffr.shopping.rakuten.com%2Fphoto%2Ffuji-fujica-objectif-fujinon-28-3-5-ebc-x-dm-1156329821_L.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=01ba8d074d195d1d4d15ebc4ceffec6434603b5cb83259a4025838e5fde05cb4&ipo=images[/img]
lens is this, DM mark is about Fujica auto-functions things incorporated in their last slr AX series camera.
As far as I know they are all EBC only.
Be aware, there is an 'X-kominar' in 28 / 2.8 sold together with an AX mount, but I believe that's a Cosina lens, which was widely made for various mounts in the '80s and '90s.
It's still a good lens, but you probably have it or have had it at some point. _________________ for sale: smc super takumar 135/2.5 M42, Yash ML 50/1/4, Yash DS-M 50/1.4 M42, Yash ML 21/3.5, Yash auto 50/2.8, Mir-1 37/2.5 (new!), Jupiter-9 M42+M39(new!), Jupiter-11 135, FD 100/2.8, Konishiroku Konica 100/2.8, Fujinon T 100/2.8(M42/XF), Minolta PF 58/1.4 + 1.7, Meyer O.G. 100/2.8, Meyer O.G. 50/1.8, Meyer O.G. Lydith 30/3.5, Meyer O.G. Domi 50/2.8 ... and many more |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3132 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:52 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
alex_d wrote: |
[img]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ffr.shopping.rakuten.com%2Fphoto%2Ffuji-fujica-objectif-fujinon-28-3-5-ebc-x-dm-1156329821_L.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=01ba8d074d195d1d4d15ebc4ceffec6434603b5cb83259a4025838e5fde05cb4&ipo=images[/img]
lens is this, DM mark is about Fujica auto-functions things incorporated in their last slr AX series camera.
As far as I know they are all EBC only.
Be aware, there is an 'X-kominar' in 28 / 2.8 sold together with an AX mount, but I believe that's a Cosina lens, which was widely made for various mounts in the '80s and '90s.
It's still a good lens, but you probably have it or have had it at some point. |
Thanks, so this is an entirely different lens than this one, right?
https://stephend.photo/fuji-ebc-fujinon-sw-28mm-f35
This one supposedly has soft corners. |
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alex_d
Joined: 19 Jan 2019 Posts: 377
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
I have that SW (m42) on fujica 801 and only just once on my fuji aps digi,
so cant comment soft corners, and I would not be upset what other write about it.
anyway, on an aps, SW was 'not so good..' (whatever that could means at the moment back then) as DM (AX mount) was.
In my book, DM is a 'better' lens. I cant comment if they are the same opti formula / same lens - ex mount.
an analog combo of any of fujica series 701/801/901 slr's with its lenses is a great investment and for analog and for hobby/enthusiast/creative/documentary/street/***/whatever digital photography.
some more lenses worth from that fuji great period (also medium G cameras and lenses);
- legendary 100/2.8, a wide one but I forgot **mm/1.9, 55/1.6, and one rare 'Tomioka' in 1.4 model and a wet dream 55/1.2. _________________ for sale: smc super takumar 135/2.5 M42, Yash ML 50/1/4, Yash DS-M 50/1.4 M42, Yash ML 21/3.5, Yash auto 50/2.8, Mir-1 37/2.5 (new!), Jupiter-9 M42+M39(new!), Jupiter-11 135, FD 100/2.8, Konishiroku Konica 100/2.8, Fujinon T 100/2.8(M42/XF), Minolta PF 58/1.4 + 1.7, Meyer O.G. 100/2.8, Meyer O.G. 50/1.8, Meyer O.G. Lydith 30/3.5, Meyer O.G. Domi 50/2.8 ... and many more |
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BrianSVP
Joined: 09 Jun 2023 Posts: 335 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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BrianSVP wrote:
alex_d wrote: |
a wide one but I forgot **mm/1.9 |
The 35mm f/1.9 EBC Fujinon-w
Awesome lens that creates a very distinctive look. Way softer corners than modern users would accept, but has really great colors and rendering. |
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alex_d
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
BrianSVP wrote: |
alex_d wrote: |
a wide one but I forgot **mm/1.9 |
The 35mm f/1.9 EBC Fujinon-w
Awesome lens that creates a very distinctive look. Way softer corners than modern users would accept, but has really great colors and rendering. |
ok yes, a 35 .. i had to think hard but nothing came above as im a bit out of the photo theory & history lately.
never had that lens myself but i know it from the legend that goes form generation to generation.
btw:
and I would emphasize: 'shame on you fuji for creating great lenses with soft corners that modern photographers cannot use on their digital cameras...'
unheard ..
---edit;
well i had to dig in cause i was stunned by the fast that i forgot the facts,
and now i know it again: there are 2 versions in 1.9,
- 01 is *-w version, 35mm and m42
- 02 is *-dm version, in ax mount -> see links on this forum, https://forum.mflenses.com/x-fujinon-1-9-28-t72393.html
https://forum.mflenses.com/x-fujinon-sw-28mm--19-ebc-t81042.html _________________ for sale: smc super takumar 135/2.5 M42, Yash ML 50/1/4, Yash DS-M 50/1.4 M42, Yash ML 21/3.5, Yash auto 50/2.8, Mir-1 37/2.5 (new!), Jupiter-9 M42+M39(new!), Jupiter-11 135, FD 100/2.8, Konishiroku Konica 100/2.8, Fujinon T 100/2.8(M42/XF), Minolta PF 58/1.4 + 1.7, Meyer O.G. 100/2.8, Meyer O.G. 50/1.8, Meyer O.G. Lydith 30/3.5, Meyer O.G. Domi 50/2.8 ... and many more |
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BrianSVP
Joined: 09 Jun 2023 Posts: 335 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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BrianSVP wrote:
I ended up de facto trading one of these (35mm m42) with a friend for a Pentax 55/1.2. Basically, I had his lens, and he had mine, and we both ended up moving.
Now don't get me wrong; the Pentax is a great lens. Not cheap, either. But I honestly think my friend got the better end of the trade!
Never tried the 28 X version, but the examples in your linked thread look great.
alex_d wrote: |
BrianSVP wrote: |
alex_d wrote: |
a wide one but I forgot **mm/1.9 |
The 35mm f/1.9 EBC Fujinon-w
Awesome lens that creates a very distinctive look. Way softer corners than modern users would accept, but has really great colors and rendering. |
ok yes, a 35 .. i had to think hard but nothing came above as im a bit out of the photo theory & history lately.
never had that lens myself but i know it from the legend that goes form generation to generation.
btw:
and I would emphasize: 'shame on you fuji for creating great lenses with soft corners that modern photographers cannot use on their digital cameras...'
unheard ..
---edit;
well i had to dig in cause i was stunned by the fast that i forgot the facts,
and now i know it again: there are 2 versions in 1.9,
- 01 is *-w version, 35mm and m42
- 02 is *-dm version, in ax mount -> see links on this forum, https://forum.mflenses.com/x-fujinon-1-9-28-t72393.html
https://forum.mflenses.com/x-fujinon-sw-28mm--19-ebc-t81042.html |
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 568
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:27 am Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
alex_d wrote: |
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Be aware, there is an 'X-kominar' in 28 / 2.8 sold together with an AX mount, but I believe that's a Cosina lens, which was widely made for various mounts in the '80s and '90s.
It's still a good lens, but you probably have it or have had it at some point. |
X-KOMINar made by KOMINE a manufacturer of top lenses in 70's/80's ie : 90mm macro 1:1 sold by vivitar, panagor ... for vivitar s1 series : 135/2.3 - 200/3 - 28/90 - 70/210 2.8-4 + some less well known lenses but still very good: 35/70 3.5 + 135mm 2.8 macro vivitar , .... _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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BrianSVP
Joined: 09 Jun 2023 Posts: 335 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:43 am Post subject: |
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BrianSVP wrote:
Despite the similarity in name, Kominar lenses reputablr sources indicate they were made Nittoh, NOT Komine.
Nittoh used the mark for well-regarded lenses.as far back as the 1950s, decades before Komine even existed, and there is speculation that Komine chose its own name to dishonestly imply a connection to the Kominar lenses.
PBFACTS wrote: |
alex_d wrote: |
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Be aware, there is an 'X-kominar' in 28 / 2.8 sold together with an AX mount, but I believe that's a Cosina lens, which was widely made for various mounts in the '80s and '90s.
It's still a good lens, but you probably have it or have had it at some point. |
X-KOMINar made by KOMINE a manufacturer of top lenses in 70's/80's ie : 90mm macro 1:1 sold by vivitar, panagor ... for vivitar s1 series : 135/2.3 - 200/3 - 28/90 - 70/210 2.8-4 + some less well known lenses but still very good: 35/70 3.5 + 135mm 2.8 macro vivitar , .... |
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alex_d
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
Sure, but what i mean (I see I have to go into details every time...) ;
- I believe that the lens originally came from Cosina, and then other (if!) manufacturers started producing it under various brands. I have had the same lens branded with some very strange and funny names.
As far as I know from my reading, Komina had its own lenses and optical formulas a long time ago.
In 70-80 they made lenses that were established as opti formula but from others, as Cosina for example.
However, I suspect that much of this is part of an internet legend, much like many other stories about Japanese photo products.
Hello, Tomioka! _________________ for sale: smc super takumar 135/2.5 M42, Yash ML 50/1/4, Yash DS-M 50/1.4 M42, Yash ML 21/3.5, Yash auto 50/2.8, Mir-1 37/2.5 (new!), Jupiter-9 M42+M39(new!), Jupiter-11 135, FD 100/2.8, Konishiroku Konica 100/2.8, Fujinon T 100/2.8(M42/XF), Minolta PF 58/1.4 + 1.7, Meyer O.G. 100/2.8, Meyer O.G. 50/1.8, Meyer O.G. Lydith 30/3.5, Meyer O.G. Domi 50/2.8 ... and many more |
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