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Sevo
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
no, no red T!
prewar Carl Zeiss Jena, Serial No. 2517495
what does the serial number tell you, Attila? |
I'm not Attila, but the serial was issued in late 1938 - and number issue and production of mass produced lenses seems to have occurred within days. _________________ Sevo |
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kuuan
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
Sevo wrote: |
kuuan wrote: |
no, no red T!
prewar Carl Zeiss Jena, Serial No. 2517495
what does the serial number tell you, Attila? |
I'm not Attila, but the serial was issued in late 1938 - and number issue and production of mass produced lenses seems to have occurred within days. |
oh great you come back Sevo, and thank you for the info.
Can you, or anyone, point me to any internet site which talks about this version of this classic lens?
Or which compares it to other, e.g. the red T version? _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Sevo
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Most comparisons repeat a 1946 British magazine article which isn't really relevant today. But there are several long threads on Sonnar types over at Rangefinderforum, where Brian Sweeney is the local Sonnar expert and hacker. _________________ Sevo |
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kuuan
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
thank you Sevo. Yes, I had found some threads about this lens and versions there. Nothing much conclusive though, but I hope I soon will be able to see with my own eyes.
I actually already took some test shots, the lens held against an M42 adapter for the NEX. Wide open it doesn't look sharp, but the bokeh looks great, I think I am going to like it _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
no, no red T!
prewar Carl Zeiss Jena, Serial No. 2517495
what does the serial number tell you, Attila? |
Earliest as possible with Red T , most valuable one, not better than others just more rare. _________________ -------------------------------
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pich900
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Hi Kuuan!
I have the same lens and the cam mount as well, see here the pictures:
http://forum.mflenses.com/sonnar-1-5-50mm-contax-rf-mount-strange-adapter-t26512,highlight,%2Bsonnar+%2B50mm.html
and some more shots with the lens (and mount) attached on M42/Nikon adpater with my D700:
For sure a beautiful lens with lovely bokeh! _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
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kuuan
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
wow Pascal, these samples are amazing, much sharper than, and bokeh great as anticipated.
Haha, your adapter looks funny, still the plate from the camera included.
I just won an auction for a broken Kiev including a J-8 for 7 pound, well, shipping is another 11, I am very curious if I will succeed in making my own adapter.
I know some will say this lens needs FF but I shall be very happy if I can use it on my NEX. _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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kuuan
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:26 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I made my own Contax/Kiev to NEX adapter.
I took helicoid from broken Kiev and fitted it to plastic NEX body cap, it works perfect with the J-8 I have, hits infinity... |
mine is ready too, helicoid from a Kiev 4, mount a Pen-F > NEX adapter which works well NEX side, but did not fit well Pen-F side
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kuuan
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
adapter looks cool
works alright and focuses to infinity
but for changing aperture one has to hold the lens with the other hand, if not one would turn the lens, change focus instead.
however the omission of cog wheels, the transmission to a focus-wheel and of a lock as on the original body also allows much closer focusing
cheers,
Andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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IAZA
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:40 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
that's great shot PAscal, it looks so close, how close it was?
Kuuan I like that lens & adapter, I might follow you two _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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pich900
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:38 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
IAZA wrote: |
that's great shot PAscal, it looks so close, how close it was? |
thanks! I don't remember how close I was but anyway less than 10cm ...
@ kuuan: looks great on the NEX, congrats! Could you may be post a picture of the lens mount with the adapter??
it gives me for sure an other reason to get one day this famous NEX cam .... _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
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Pascal
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kuuan
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
pich900 wrote: |
@ kuuan: looks great on the NEX, congrats! Could you may be post a picture of the lens mount with the adapter??
it gives me for sure an other reason to get one day this famous NEX cam .... |
Pascal I don't want to take my adapter apart again to show better, but I hope the photos and my words make it clear enough:
Unscrewed the Pen-F mount from the Pen-F to NEX adapter, the Contax mount fits inside it with a bit of play
#1
The register distance of Contax RF is 34.85, of Pen-F is 28.95, so there is some distance to be added
#2
I did not want to clue it, make it fix before checking infinity focus and therefore simply put two layers of the foam seen in the photos around the Contax mount and forced, pressed it into the NEX adapter
#3
this is sturdy enough for the mount to stay put without turning or moving though it is not yet permanently fixed. The foam gives a bit and for normal use I must be careful that the mount rests plain against the adapter. Pressing hard against one side of the surplus metal of the mount will tilt the lens just a bit and focus peaking of the NEX will show me exactly where the focus plain rests. I really like that and at least for now will just leave it as it is.
cheers,
Andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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pich900
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
ok Thanks Andreas, it's perfectly clear .. _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
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Jesito
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
I missed this thread!!
Wow, what a nice adaptation, thanks for sharing!
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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philslizzy
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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
resurrecting this old thread.
I made an adapter fro my Sonnar from a broken kiev 4. I took the mount off the camera, very easy and trimmed the 'square' plate with metal cutters and a file. About 10 minutes. The whole assembly fits inside one of those M39 adapters with an adjustable and removeable M39 rings. I shimmed it out about a millimetre with thin plastic from a fruit punnet then ran epoxy round the outside. Filing it neatly. Finished off with a paint job. cost about £15 for parts. It's much cheaper than the commercial ones - or indeed the Russian guy who's making the same things. Then selling his kievs without mounts.
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kuuan
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:18 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
nice work Phil!
it's not difficult, right? I think I finally shall cut off the surplus metal too, however cool it looks it does make it less practical _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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KRaZiGLiTcH
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:03 am Post subject: |
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KRaZiGLiTcH wrote:
Not to bump an old thread but what other adapters would work with this? i am planning on doing this too ^_^. |
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kuuan
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:25 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
KRaZiGLiTcH wrote: |
Not to bump an old thread but what other adapters would work with this? i am planning on doing this too ^_^. |
not sure if I understand your question right. You are asking which other adapters, right, not which other lenses?
there are quite a few available, see e.g. on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=contax+rf+adapter&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcontax+rf+adapter+sony.TRS0&_nkw=contax+rf+adapter+sony&_sacat=0
( sorry for the VND prices, I am in Vietnam right now and I don't know how to avoid this. It's a search for 'Contax RF adapter Sony' )
note that many, usually the cheaper ones, are for Contax RF lenses with 'outer bajonett' only, these adapers do not include a helicoid and are not useable with e.g. the lens shown in this thread _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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KRaZiGLiTcH
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:13 am Post subject: |
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KRaZiGLiTcH wrote:
Sorry. I want to use my Jupiter 8m lens. And was wondering is the Penf > Nex the only adapter that works well when putting the Kiev part into it? Thank heaps |
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kuuan
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:19 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
KRaZiGLiTcH wrote: |
..And was wondering is the Penf > Nex the only adapter that works well when putting the Kiev part into it? Thank heaps |
ah, now I get it. A LTM > E mount adapter should work too.
I don't have the parts with me to verify, but possibly those that have a black body and metal colored LTM mount are preferable. This in case that the opening of those that come in one solid part is too small to accept the Contax mount, and if, of the 2 colored ones, the metal LTM part can be removed from the E mount adapter _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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