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MoonPix
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MoonPix wrote:
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visualopsins
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visualopsins wrote:
A Takumar perhaps?
Plenty of examples of the Takumars and other lenses in MFlenses -- Best of Lenses Gallery
There are also some threads dedicated to showing bokeh; use the Search link (top of page) to search for 'bokeh'.
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ludoo
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ludoo wrote:
Canon fd new 35/2 has the smoothest bokeh I've ever seen *and* is still reasonably priced, but it might be difficult to adapt to your camera. Ok, rereading your post smooth bokeh might not be something you are looking for. 
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Triplets are known for the type of bokeh you seek. Not sure if I know of any wide angle triplets.
Meyer Primagon 35mm has very nice bokeh as does the Meyer Lydith 30mm.
28mm lenses are so common, I have loads of them, not sure what to recommend for the type of bokeh you seek.
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Esox lucius
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Esox lucius wrote:
Wides with nice bokeh?
The "arabesque" type of pronounced ring-edged bokeh your Trioplan and Cyclop give is not hard to find with wide-angle lenses. Just look for a lens with elements grouped in 3 to five groups.
To everyone their own liking, but wide-angles with "nice" bokeh require a definition of what is "nice" and what isn't - personally I think smooth and "un-pronounced" is the definition of "nice" bokeh...
In my opinion, most wides provide ugly, rough-edged bokeh balls, and there are very few lenses that really give smooth bokeh highlights and provide a wide field of view. I could name two autofocus lenses very capable in this field, but I'l refrain from so 
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IAZA
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IAZA wrote:
I like your input Vilhelm.
wide lens need to be very close to object to achieve good bokeh.
my fave wide now (it has nice bokeh I think) is Schneider Kreuznach Curtagon 28/4
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std
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std wrote:
Voigtländer Skoparex 1:3,4/35 in DKL mount has the same harsh circles
in the highlights when taking pictures from a close distance.
The same ones which Suat likes in 2.8/50 Xenar.
If you can find one for cheap it is a nice lens - very good colors and very special bokeh
http://forum.mflenses.com/some-more-skoparex-bokeh-shots-from-my-archive-t40991.html
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