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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:22 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Well, I've got a shortlist now:
Fed-2
Zorki-4K
Kiev-4A
I am tempted to say Zorki 6 for it's lever wind and hinged back instead of the Fed or Zorki-4K but Atilla speaks highly of the Fed. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Kamerer
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 389 Location: Russia Moscow
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Kamerer wrote:
kansalliskala wrote: |
question was "practical"
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Welcom practical:
http://msk.molotok.ru/leningrad-fotoapparat-s-obektivom-yupiter-8-2-50mm-i1645330123.html
http://murmansk.molotok.ru/fotoapparat-leningrad-proizv-sssr-i1649891738.html
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Sony NEX-3 + NEX C3
MC Helios-44M-4
VMC Vivitar 28-90/2.8-3.5 Ser1
Pentakta 2/30
My texts are translated by the electronic translator. Best regards, Sergey.
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Kamerer
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 389 Location: Russia Moscow
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Kamerer wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Well, I've got a shortlist now:
Fed-2
Zorki-4K
Kiev-4A
I am tempted to say Zorki 6 for it's lever wind and hinged back instead of the Fed or Zorki-4K but Atilla speaks highly of the Fed. |
IMHO:
Zorki-4
Kiev-2A
Zorki-4K
FED-2
Zorki-6
Kiev-4A _________________
Sony NEX-3 + NEX C3
MC Helios-44M-4
VMC Vivitar 28-90/2.8-3.5 Ser1
Pentakta 2/30
My texts are translated by the electronic translator. Best regards, Sergey.
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Which one is the most silent from those Russian rf's?
The zorki 4 has very strong shutter noise. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Zorki2C , Fed-2 are silent. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Zorki2C , Fed-2 are silent enough.
Taron-35 a Japanese RF was too silent many times I didn't recognize shutter did work. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Kamerer
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 389 Location: Russia Moscow
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Kamerer wrote:
std wrote: |
The zorki 4 has very strong shutter noise. |
If the Zorki-4 has a sewn edge shutter blinds (roughly 1957-1958 years) - it runs quietly. After 1958 the edge of the shutter curtains were metal - the sound became louder.
Also, mechanisms need to be adjusted and lubricated. _________________
Sony NEX-3 + NEX C3
MC Helios-44M-4
VMC Vivitar 28-90/2.8-3.5 Ser1
Pentakta 2/30
My texts are translated by the electronic translator. Best regards, Sergey.
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
the Fed 3b has lever wind and more modern film loading, and is quiet. Main issue is the squinty VF, but the patch tends to be more visible than in the Zorkis I've peered through. The Zorkis have a notably larger viewfinder however.
The Kiev I peered through was wonderful and I'd love to have a good sample. _________________ -Jussi
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aspen
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 307 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
Spaceba, moi drook.
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Kamerer
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 389 Location: Russia Moscow
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Kamerer wrote:
aspen wrote: |
Spaceba, moi drook.
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bitte schon _________________
Sony NEX-3 + NEX C3
MC Helios-44M-4
VMC Vivitar 28-90/2.8-3.5 Ser1
Pentakta 2/30
My texts are translated by the electronic translator. Best regards, Sergey.
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Tom in Delaware
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 42 Location: Delaware, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Tom in Delaware wrote:
Working with a Russian rangefinder seems like an exercise in masochism. Get a Yashica GSN, they really do have excellent 45mm lenses on them and are very quiet. Photoethnography has a nice writeup on them with a demonstration of the quality of the lens. |
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Kamerer
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 389 Location: Russia Moscow
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Kamerer wrote:
Tom in Delaware wrote: |
Working with a Russian rangefinder seems like an exercise in masochism. Get a Yashica GSN, they really do have excellent 45mm lenses on them and are very quiet. Photoethnography has a nice writeup on them with a demonstration of the quality of the lens. |
I bought a Yashica GSN year ago, faulty automatics, a year the wizard (serviceman) can not fix it. Repair and maintenance of the "Zorki" or "FED" takes a maximum of a week.
Yashica best of a mechanical Lynx 14 or Lynx 5000, IMHO. _________________
Sony NEX-3 + NEX C3
MC Helios-44M-4
VMC Vivitar 28-90/2.8-3.5 Ser1
Pentakta 2/30
My texts are translated by the electronic translator. Best regards, Sergey.
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Selenium_27
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 118 Location: Strasbourg, France
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Selenium_27 wrote:
I loved my russian bodies but since I got my bessa R2A, they feel a little bit abandonned : you can find the bessa R for 200€ or less and so get a bright rangefinder and patch.
The only drawback is that the jupiter-12 doesn't fit (protubes too deeply)..
It depends on your budget and needs :
very low budget > russian (but be careful to the seller, otherwise you have a high probability to fall on a junk body !!)
Need absolutely a 35 mm and low budget > why not a yashica 35 CC (auto exposure with 35 1.8 lens) you'll find it for under 100€ which is what you would pay for body + jupiter 12 + 35mm viewfinder
A little more : the bessa _________________ M42 Lenses : Zenit 100/1.5 (nice !!) Super-Takumar 1.4/50, Cyclop 1.5/85, Super-Takumar 2.8/105, Tair 2.8/135, Quinar 2.8/135, Super-Takumar 4/200 /// Used with : Spotmatic, Some Zenits,..
K lenses K 3.5/18, K 3.5/28, M 1.4/50 /// Used with : Pentax LX
M39 : Heliar 4.5/15, Ultron 1.7/35, Wartime CZJ Sonnar 1.5/50, Color Skopar 2.5/50 /// Used With : Voigtlander Bessa R2A, Zorki 1
P6 : CZJ Flektogon 4/50, Mir 3.5/65 CZJ Biometar 2.8/120 /// Used with : Kiev 60
Bronica bayonet : Nikkor 4/40, Nikkor 2.8/75, 4/200-- S2A currently down..
Minolta Rokkor 1.7/50, Rokkor 2.8/24 /// Used with SRT 101, XE-5 (so cute !!)
Other Bodies : Many plate folders, Gnoflex (Japanese 6x6 TLR, 3.5/75), Robin MKII (24x28, very rare and compact, 2.8/40), Rollei 35B (Triotar 3.4/40), Vito CL, Vitessa 500 (24x36 rangefinder, tessar)
100/1.5 for sale on ebay (click here)
LOOKING FOR a bronica body : S/S, A, Z,D,EC, EC-TL, EC-TL-II
Anything I have is potentially for trade. Try PM Me
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Drack
Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 735 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Drack wrote:
I`m sorry for renewing old posts , but I simply can`t constrain myself from saying my personal opinion
Lets start with the Fed cameras. I personally have use and own many Fed`s so here is my review:
Fed 1 - a wonderful camera. Built very nicely, comes with exel. lens and is very trustworthy. One issue is that it has problems with light leaks , but if you are able to find one that has not been used too much it will be fine.
Fed-2 There where dozens of variations of it and newer one are actually better. These cameras do not break as much as Fed 3 , however shutter speeds might not be that accurate. Despite that it is truly camera of choosing.
Fed-3 has slow speed issues which often jams the curtains. Ofcourse if you use it "by the book" it will be a nice camera indeed.
Fed-4 cant say much actually. To my its the same thing as a Fed 3 just with an added selenium meter.
Fed -5B a way better made Fed 3 , very durable, cheap
Fed-5 and Fed -5C are almost the same cameras. 5c version has a nice bright viewfinder , they both have quite accurate selenium meters and are wonderful cameras.
From all of these , I`d probably choose Fed 1 , Fed-2D or Fed 5c.
Now for the Zorkis. Buy Zorki 6. It`s simply wonderful .
Kiev`s are not my speciality therefore I can`t say anything about them. |
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