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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Aah, sorry, I forgot you had a Sony.


Actually I wasn't the OP, it was just a general consideration. There's quite some thread about hexanons these days, and all show excellent pictures.
BTW, now that I checked, the OP won't be able to mount them as well, so better for him to know that.


PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: where? Reply with quote
tinybynature wrote:
inombrable wrote:
In my opinion jupiter 37 and sonnar a bit expensive, you can get those for a bit less clean and functional (depending on where you are) also as Aanything said its a matter of patience and luck. I got my J11 alongside an helios 44 and a mir 1 (all silver version) with a working zenit camera for 60 USD in very good condition.



Where do you all do your shopping to find prices and deals like that? I have so far, been doing most of my looking on Ebay.

Maybe that is the wrong place??


There are bargains to be found on Ebay, if you watch over a period of months. It doesn't pay to be in a hurry on the 'Bay.

I've had decent luck on Kijiji/Craigslist, again over a period of months.

Check out your local flea markets etc.

Bigger places sometimes have camera fairs.

Location will influence availability, i.e. in North America you see much less Soviet/GDR kit and it's usually not as cheap.


PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well for a sharp prime and more chance of "pop" the CZJ Sonnar is excellent.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: :) Reply with quote
I keep hearing a lot about the CZJ Sonnar MC. I will keep an eye out for a bargain.

Would the Jupiter 37a, be a good backup solution?

Thanks again, for all the helpful input. Smile


PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jupiter 37A is definitely a very good lens, I liked it a lot, maybe even more than my Pentacon - that was also very good, don't get me wrong, but the Jupiter had better handling and feel, was a bit more compact and I've always been impressed by its image quality even wide-open.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sonnar 2.8 is very good as is hexanon 3.2. I´m not very sure of om zuiko 3,5, because not so many fotos with it, but that pen e-zuiko 150 mm is nice.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have the CZJ Sonnar 3.5 and 4.0. and I really love the 3.5. Apparently the lens has been steadily improved, so go for the newer electric version if you can.

I bought the 4.0 with a rangefinder mount because I was looking for something lighter and smaller since I'm using it with an adapter on my Fuji X-E1. The 4.0 is thinner, but it's about the same length and the same weight as the 3.5. (The 4.0 is actually 40g heavier at 511g) It's also 30 years older and I think the lenses are uncoated.

The 3.5 however has a very good coating. I have made some shots where the sun was hitting the lens directly and I had no flare issues at all. I do have a four-digit-serial-number sample which apparently has a prototype T* coating.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
inombrable wrote:
Aanything wrote:
I'd leave the takumar 135/2.5 out mostly because all the 6/6 version i saw were really expensive, and, IMHO, it won't be better than a sonnar.


+1

+1 I sold mine asap after try.


+2, indeed, good lens like any other good 135mm but nothing special Wink


PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
sbaechler wrote:
I have the CZJ Sonnar 3.5 and 4.0. and I really love the 3.5. Apparently the lens has been steadily improved, so go for the newer electric version if you can.

I bought the 4.0 with a rangefinder mount because I was looking for something lighter and smaller since I'm using it with an adapter on my Fuji X-E1. The 4.0 is thinner, but it's about the same length and the same weight as the 3.5. (The 4.0 is actually 40g heavier at 511g) It's also 30 years older and I think the lenses are uncoated.

The 3.5 however has a very good coating. I have made some shots where the sun was hitting the lens directly and I had no flare issues at all. I do have a four-digit-serial-number sample which apparently has a prototype T* coating.


The f4 version is great, and cheaper then the 3.5 by a fair margin, especially in Exakta mount.

The f4 rangefinder version was in production a long time and comes in different flavours:

pre-war uncoated
pre-war/wartime T coated
post-war CZJ T coated
post-war Zeiss Opton T coated (some have a white Gothic F symbol instead of the red T)

They are all very sharp, the uncoated one is no less so, but has lower contrast. The best of the lot is the Opton version, but they are all very good. The Russian J11 copy is very good too, I've got three of them and there isn't much difference to the CZJ versions imho.

I don't think a CZJ lens would have T* coating as that was a western Zeiss invention. CZJ had their own multicoating which is designated by the red letters 'MC'.
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