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Karhallarn
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 Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: What would you do? |
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Karhallarn wrote:
Hi guys!
My 40D is broke. After just 4 months it died but likely I has warranty on it from my used Photo gear seller in hamburg. So now I'm on the edge of what now!
I was at the dealer today and they would give me the money back but I did a steal at my 40D 4 Months ago for just 350€ (actually traded it for my D200), for which I wouldn't get one now. The other options would be to get a new camera from them and being able to get some discount! So I looked at what they got at the moment and there are two camera to think about, both would cost me about 100€ plus the refund. The cameras are a 40D or a 1D Mark 1.
So I could get a newer 40D for 100€ or get an older but more pro 1D for the same.
In favor of the 40D are the batteries, CF cards and the Ef-S screen I already bought, the bigger screen and newer technology. In favor of the 1D are a bigger Sensor, better AF, much bigger viewfinder and the tremendously better build of the 1D. Negatives for the 1D are shorter battery life, tiny screen and slow processing and the need to buy new CF cards and new batteries.
So now I'm unsure!
The IQ is said to be roughly the same with an edge in sharpness on the 1D.
I don't crop a lot. Most of my pictures are for the web or printed A4 and just some are printed large (50*70cm). I love shallow depth of field and do a lot of birding.
What do you think? Take the famous dinosaur which makes you focus more on the raw photography again and makes you think more about the framing because you can't crop a lot. Or take the newer tinier plastic camera which I got to like a lot in the last months.
I confess that I'm a gear junkie who really like to try new old thinks and I'm somewhat longing for the body of my old friend the Nikon D1x for some time. Another think speaking for the 1D is some kind of refusal to pay a premium and get the same camera I send in for repairs!
What do you guys think?
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
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I love shallow depth of field and do a lot of birding
So I could get a newer 40D for 100€ or get an older but more pro 1D for the same |
can you take the 2 for 200€ 
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Karhallarn
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Karhallarn wrote:
It's 100€ on top of the 350€ I get back for my broken 40D...!
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visualopsins wrote:
Full frame (or much closer to it than APS-C) and viewfinders are soooo wonderful with MFlenses!!!
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Karhallarn
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Karhallarn wrote:
That is exactly my main thinking at the moment!
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LucisPictor wrote:
Yes, fullframe is nice, but keep in mind that the 1D is a huge cam!
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tikkathree wrote:
I've had a 40D and didn't find it hugely different to the 400D I had before. Some people really rate the 40D I do know.
I couldn't wait to get to FF.
Your choice? Assuming that both the 40D and the 1Di are in similar condition with similar numbers of actuations?
40D is 1.6x crop, 1Di is 1.3x crop.
1Di is a pro body but the i is quite old technology.
If you need a high fps rate it's the better one of the 2.
The 40D with a battery grip is no different in size to the 1D.
My advice? Handle both bodies with one of your lenses and see which you prefer. If you're still undecided I'd take the money and shop around. Honestly I would.
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I took a look at the 1D MKI and instantly said no. Yes it's pro and has fast AF, but the resolution is low, the LCD is terrible, the camera is huge and I didn't like the button layout.
Horses for courses though, it's best you go and try it out before making a decision.
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Karhallarn
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Karhallarn wrote:
@ManualFocus-G: That is my problem! My brain says 40D because of the specs but as soon as I had the 1D in my Hands it was so nice, it felt just right and like coming back home again (Had Nikon D1 and D1x).
That's why I'm butchering myself what to do!
Heart says 1D, brain 40D...
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Riku wrote:
350€ is too much for 1D
450€ is too much for 40D
Take the money and get something newer or look for a better deal elsewhere  |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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mmelvis wrote:
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350€ is too much for 1D
450€ is too much for 40D
Take the money and get something newer or look for a better deal elsewhere |
Take the money and look else where |
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Karhallarn
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Karhallarn wrote:
Cheers guys! I will see if they go down with the price or take the money!
How are the experiences shooting with a Olympus e-P1 when coming from classic DSLR and using MF lenses. I do a lot of birding and Street. I know that it must be great for street but I don't know about birding and using it with the 300mm Nikkor! Any experiences?
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Take the 40D. Great camera.
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mo wrote:
If the refund is 350 euro (a set amount) do some shopping around online and see what else is out there for that price.Always compare prices... well at least 3 prices to give yourself some idea of what is normal...  Plus as they have pointed out you have 350 and only add a little more you could get any camera you want...don't rush in buying their 2nd hand!
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Karhallarn
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Karhallarn wrote:
@mo: true words! But the flesh is weak! I will go to the shop tomorrow, to collect my refund and look at an e-P1 and then we will see!
I will not tai the ancient 1D and I don't like the idea of spending more money on a camera I already had!
Lets see what they are offering! 
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mo wrote:
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@mo: true words! But the flesh is weak! I will go to the shop tomorrow, to collect my refund and look at an e-P1 and then we will see!
I will not tai the ancient 1D and I don't like the idea of spending more money on a camera I already had!
Lets see what they are offering! |
Damn flesh...  I look forward to seeing what you get...keep us posted.Olympus is nice..
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Karhallarn
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Karhallarn wrote:
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| Damn flesh... I look forward to seeing what you get... |
Me too! Me too...
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:06 am Post subject: Re: What would you do? |
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kansalliskala wrote:
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| The IQ is said to be roughly the same with an edge in sharpness on the 1D. |
???
1D is 4 Mpix.
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