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What medium format film cameras still manufactured?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:41 am    Post subject: What medium format film cameras still manufactured? Reply with quote

I was browsing Tamron site and was surprised because Bronica brand was discontinued so late as 2005. So I started looking at which cameras were still produced and when discontinued. List is based on google "information", so can someone add /edit items if really knows better?

Still in production:
Mamiya: RB 67, RZ 67, 645, 7
Hasselblad: 503
Kiev: 60, 88

Discontinued after 2000:
Bronica 2005
Rollei 2009
Contax 2005

No reliable info yet:
Pentax 645 (digital 2010?)
Fuji GA645 (in production or not?)


PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mamiya still makes the RZ67 Pro IID and 645AFD III. The 7 II has been gone for quite some time. They still have accessories and lenses available for the 645 Pro/TL and RB67-SD, as they were discontinued only two or three years ago.

The older Fujis (GA series, GX, GW/GSW) are long out of production, but there still are some GF670 (Fuji version of the Bessa III) in the shops, and given its success, they might do another production run or create a follow-up. Besides that, Fuji is the maker behind the Hasselblad H system cameras and lenses, which are marketed as Fujifilm GX645AF in Japan, and still have a film back available (and Fuji marketing does not center on their digital backs nearly as much as Hasselblad).

Tamron stopped Zenza Bronica SLR production five years ago, and the RF645 a year later.

Contax pulled out of MF with the closure of the entire Yashica/Kyocera photography brand. Kyocera do sell good kitchen knives, though...

Pentax quit film and MF - but they have announced a new digital MF camera for next year. As the Pentax 645 always had a integrated magazine, it will hardly grow a film brother, as that would mean a body redesign rather than a mag swap.

Rollei/F&H went belly-up once more this year, this time for good - and the film aspects of the Hy6 had already been downplayed to the point that it was essentially only available as digital. And what with the TLR production already using up spare parts for the past years to the depletion point, it does not even look as if there might be a Rolleiflex TLR revival at artisan scale.

Hasselblad still makes the 503CW, and the H2 (see Fuji) can be purchased as H2F with film magazine.

Hartblei still seem to be patching up Kievs - but the latter are probably NOS or spare assembled by now, there is no indication that they are still made from scratch.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sevo wrote:

Rollei/F&H went belly-up once more this year, this time for good - and the film aspects of the Hy6 had already been downplayed to the point that it was essentially only available as digital.


Sinar still has Hy6 on its web-page for some reason and if one looks close enough there are also film specs on the technical sheet.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kansalliskala wrote:

Sinar still has Hy6 on its web-page for some reason and if one looks close enough there are also film specs on the technical sheet.


That will have to go in the "remaining stock still available" list. The Hy6 does not have a maker any more - we'll have to wait and see how sinar can fill that gap, the more so as they lost their main investor.

http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=867835


PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too much "consumer product" for Jenoptik. Smile


PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about the Chinese Seagull TLR?

B&H lists the following makes on their MF film section:
Hasselblad, Holga, Lomography, Mamiya, Rollei, Seagull
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Medium-Format-Cameras/ci/465/N/4294541006

How many of these are dregs of old stock?


PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also didn't find definitive information about Bessa III. It is still available on some sites for 1999 euros but Cosina-pages don't list is anywhere: products or discontinued?

http://www.voigtlaender.de/cms/voigtlaender/voigtlaender_cms.nsf/id/pa_fdih7jzjul.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/kaigai/index.html

Not going to buy one anyways but gathering information here just for fun .. Smile

EDIT: this nice conversation at the end of page too
http://photo.net/medium-format-photography-forum/00QxVE


PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, leave us not forget the ultra-chic Holga. All by itself it's probably responsible for much of the revival of interest in MF film use.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank goodness for the Holga, it helps keep 120 film in production.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kansalliskala wrote:
Also didn't find definitive information about Bessa III. It is still available on some sites for 1999 euros but Cosina-pages don't list is anywhere: products or discontinued?

http://www.voigtlaender.de/cms/voigtlaender/voigtlaender_cms.nsf/id/pa_fdih7jzjul.html
http://www.cosina.co.jp/kaigai/index.html

Not going to buy one anyways but gathering information here just for fun .. Smile

EDIT: this nice conversation at the end of page too
http://photo.net/medium-format-photography-forum/00QxVE


This one in brand new
http://www.voigtlaender.de/cms/voigtlaender/voigtlaender_cms.nsf/id/pa_fdih7jzjul.html


PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow!!! Shocked

The Voigtlander is WONDERFUL !!!

tf


PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price of the Voigtländer is not so wonderful, though.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pentax Canada still lists the Pentax 645 camera on its web site.
It also lists the Pentax 67 lenses.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arkku wrote:
Price of the Voigtländer is not so wonderful, though.


+1 2000 EUR simple stupid , it makes for a very limited market instead of make it for all people who is interested about superb quality medium format.

200-300 EUR should fine , don't know how much income they will have on 2000 EUR but I not expect more than a few hundreds sales.