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dawnwish03
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 Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:48 am Post subject: What is the best Soviet telephoto? |
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I'm thinking about getting the Jupiter 37A. What do you think?  |
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Great lens, but not as great as the TAIR 11A though 
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dawnwish03
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| Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:53 am Post subject: |
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dawnwish03 wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Great lens, but not as great as the TAIR 11A though |
I've always wanted to get the Tair11A but the local seller we have over here doesn't have them. How does the Tair11A compare with the Jupiter 37A? |
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:42 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
The Tair 11A gives more pop to the images and feels more "industrial" like it was made for people working underground in a mine!
If you can get a Jupter 37, try to get the MC version. Otherwise I found the Jupiter 11A to be better and is cheaper I think 
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=31562
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uddhava
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| Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:57 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
The Tair 11A gives more pop to the images and feels more "industrial" like it was made for people working underground in a mine!
If you can get a Jupter 37, try to get the MC version. Otherwise I found the Jupiter 11A to be better and is cheaper I think
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=31562 |
Does the Tair have the Sonnar design like the Jupiters?
Seems like the Jupiter 37 and the Jupiter 11A are very close. |
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vanylapep
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| Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
Now, Tair 11A or Tair 11? |
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hifisapi
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hifisapi wrote:
what is the focal length of the tair 11a?
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vanylapep
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vanylapep wrote:
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| what is the focal length of the tair 11a? |
135mm
Is the Pentax 200/f3.5 a better bokeh monster than the tair 11a? |
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Attila wrote:
Depend what you like on bokeh it is very subjective, Trioplan 100 was last lens in Europe what people willing to use , now one of the sought after after people in Asia (bokeh experts) did show how can we use it properly. I was very satisfied with Tair11 A quality from every aspects, I like a lot Takumar 200mm f4 too, my Takumar 200mm f3.5 heavily fungused, crappy so I can't compare it.
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IAZA
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IAZA wrote:
135, best is Tair 11A. not only compared to Soviet lenses, against Zeiss 135/2,8 some say it;s better some say same not. In bokeh term, it's better.
11A is 135mm while Tair 11 is 133mm (older)
200mm- Jupiter 200/4
300/4,3 Tair
which focal lenght do you prefer?
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Analog lex wrote:
MTO 500mm or MTO 1000mm. But it is kinda rare and not cheap. 
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simbon4o
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simbon4o wrote:
Jupiter 37A is sharper, if you get the MC it will be more contrasty than the tair. BUT 11 and 11A gives this unique defocus - very smooth and pops up the object on focus very good.
You can find here in this forum samples with many 135 in one big test on 5DmkII. There are big size samples...
For me the Jupiter 37A MC is the better Sonnar 135 3.5 MC, but the Tair 11 - it is something special.
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CuriousOne
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CuriousOne wrote:
Yashma-4 F2.8/300mm is also a great, but expensive lens.
I have MC-MTO-11 F10/1000mm Catadiptric lens. A bit better than cheap ebay mirror lens, but nothing spectacular or worth investing to.
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vanylapep
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vanylapep wrote:
What would you pick, Tair 11A 135 or Tair 11 133? |
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ForenSeil
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ForenSeil wrote:
| Analog lex wrote: |
| MTO 500mm or MTO 1000mm. But it is kinda rare and not cheap. |
They are often slightly misaligned (in this case not a quality control issue, many mirror lenses have this problem, especially when they have large physical apertures). But especially the MTO1000 is optically very good if you find a good copy or repaired one with "relaxed mirror". There are some tuning instuctions on the web I think, mostly by people who modified it for astro work. Center-resolution can be increased by removing an build-in teleconverter/corrector btw.. but corners get worse on FF but not a big problem for crop sensors.
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