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Lazzaros
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: Want to start shooting! |
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Lazzaros wrote:
What do you recomend for someone who wants to start shooting with film?
I only shooted with Digital but now I'm thinking I could start shooting with this amazing cameras.
I'd like a SLR but I never used one in film and I don't know wich ones could be good to start. |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Buy a Yashica
With a $10 m42 to eos adapter you can shoot every lens in your list with a C/Y mount camera.
The FX3 2000 is a fully mechanical full manual camera with a built in meter.
Usually they go for well under $50
Of course you can go as far as you want from there (RTS III for $1000) _________________ Moderator |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
With Yashica I could use all my lenses?
I have 2 c/y and 3 M42. I have M42 adaptor (with AF confirmer) to my Canon. I'm not seeing how I could use that 3 in the Yashica body.
That under 50$ sounds good to start.
I want to try the "real" b&w |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I use film for wide angle shoots , so camera body is dependent for me from wide angle lenses.
Basically you can shoot on film successfully with any camera if you have a good light meter or you use your digital camera as a light meter.
I tested following film cameras till this time:
1) Yashica Electro 35 produce amazing quality.
2) Olympus OM2n, Nikon FA both are very good one photography a joy with them.
3) Praktica VLC-3 robust,simple camera ,loud , but very reliable.
4) Konica FS-1 very nice camera, good to use.
5) YAshica -FR1 I didn't have luck with first roll, it not forwarded film (it was my fault)
6) Exa IIa nice little , very simple camera.
7) Yashica MAT 124G intresting to use after SLR , produce quality 6x6 output.
Rolleiflex 6x6 Automat stolen right after trial, very precise camera even if 70 yrs old!
In my testing cue
Many , many Prakticas, Exaktas, Zenit etc. Pentax MX, Kodak Anistigmat, Olympus Trip, Pentax 645 _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay
I bought this one and it works fine for most lenses. If you get a really fast lens with a large rear element you will need an adapter with no flange. This one is flanged for auto M42 lenses. It will work with all the lenses you listed. BTW that is a picture of the camera I referred to . |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
Click here to see on Ebay
I bought this one and it works fine for most lenses. If you get a really fast lens with a large rear element you will need an adapter with no flange. This one is flanged for auto M42 lenses. It will work with all the lenses you listed. BTW that is a picture of the camera I referred to . |
Bought that
We allways have to use a lightmeter using film cameras or some of them have it incorporated?
(sorry if I look ignorant) |
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maddog10
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1072 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
Many newer (and a lot of older) models do have built in light meters. A camera body with metering will generally cost more. USUALLY, the more you spend the better it is. You could look at Canon film bodies as well. The Yashica and Pentax M42 bodies are built like tanks and are reliable, not to mention inexpensive! _________________ Michael Hill |
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Lazzaros wrote: |
We allways have to use a lightmeter using film cameras or some of them have it incorporated?
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There are very few good cameras without TTL meter - notably Contax and Leica rangefinders and their Japanese and Russian clones, and the Exakta series (plus Nikon F/F2 and similar pre 80's pro cameras, if they happen to lack a metering finder). You will however encounter many otherwise desirable cameras with broken or unreliably aged meters, so having a handheld meter is advisable, if only to test your camera.
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Establish your budget and deside if you can live with manual exposure. Any Yashica or Contax body will have at least an exposure meter
Many also have AE so you can use the camera as you do your canon
You pick the aperture the camera picks the shutter speed.
Ae is I find particularly useful when using a lens in stopped down mode (as you will do with M42 lenses)
If you can find and afford a Contax RTS or 139 go for it either has AE and manual.
Sometime you will find a nice one for under $75 but usually closer to $125
The Yashica FR 1 is another option for an AE and manual body.
The FX3 I mentioned earlier and FR are both full manual and really a pleasure to shoot.
Either of these will be the least expensive. _________________ Moderator |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I use only M mode on my Canon 400D. I'd have to get used to it on film cameras.
I think that Yashica would be the best deal. With that adaptor I could use all my lenses on it.
If someone find a nice/cheap body please tell me.
Many thanks |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay
What do you think?
"TTL metering but one led failed" |
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maddog10
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1072 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
Seems cheap enough and you should be able to work around a burned out LED, did you ask which one was out. Get a firm shipping quote before you bid. Shipping may be too high and it would be wise to look elsewhere. _________________ Michael Hill |
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:47 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Laz
This is a M42 camera it will not mount the bayonet lenses you have.
Your planar and ML's
here is a link if you find a camera in this link it is for M42 only
http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~coreya/yashica/
I have an FR1 I could send you for cheapo and shipping but it has one problem
The prism has a squirly in it so the viewfinder is not perfect
It is still very usable but you would need to "deal" with the viewfinder or clean it.
if you are interested send me a PM with Postal code and I will get you a shipping price.
Otherwise post any auctions you are interested in and someone will make sure it will work for you _________________ Moderator |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Already sent an email to the seller. |
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Here are some that have the C/Y bayonet
Click here to see on Ebay
Click here to see on Ebay
Click here to see on Ebay
The first has one of the best ML lenses.
That black FR is hot ! The lens is a real winner also and f1.4.
The last may go cheapest. The FR II is a AE only cam but built like a tank and a wonderful shooter no lens but you have a Planar _________________ Moderator |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
The black FR is amazing. Hope I could get it |
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I hope you get it also
If you need help with shipping I'm there
The FR1 that I have is black also if this ends up to expensive.
Happy to help keep that film exposing. _________________ Moderator |
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Lazzaros
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I'm a little afraid because if I get it I could pay custom fees... :S
I saw you have one Distagon 85mm 1.4 for sell. (one of 3 right? )
How much it would be? Just curious. |
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