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Throndor
Joined: 15 Sep 2008
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Location: Ankara / TURKEY
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 Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: Wanna be MFer here.. Opinions on my first purchases.. |
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Throndor wrote:
I got a Pentax K100D super sometimes ago.. Though i am having quite a lot of time with two lenses i got , i can never keep myself from looking at the old MF lenses on the internet.. They just seem like extraterresterial artifacts to me.. The solid metal bodies, the nicely carved numbers and the smooth metal rings.. Olt of this world.. Days a go i used my friends CZ Jena on my camera and hell thats what i want..
Aside from shooting with them, i even love just looking at one sittin on the table..
The downside is, i live in TURKEY and nice MF's are rarely found locally.. So i started lookin at e-bay and found several which i want to buy. I have a moderate budget for these and just want to buy and try several models..
I searched for the lens pricings and i could not get a clear idea of some..
Here are the ones i am planning to purchase;
What do you think they are worth if they are in mint condition?
CZJ Flektogon Red MC 35mm f/2.4
CZJ Flektogon 35mm f/2.8
CZJ Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 MC
Meyer Trioplan 100mm f/2.8
Pentacon 100mm f/2.8
Pentacon 29mm f/2.8 Red MC
CZC Sonnar 135mm f/3.5 Red MC
I am so gonna get them..
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Omer
Pentax K100D super
Pentax DA 18-55 AL
Pentax SMC-FA 50 f/1.4
Aus Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 (Zebra)
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135/3.5
Varexon 35/2.8
Helios 44-2 58/2
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nice to see you here ! Welcome in endless oportunity (wonderfull world of old lenses)
CZJ Flektogon Red MC 35mm f/2.4
First class lens
CZJ Flektogon 35mm f/2.8
Don't need if you have above , contrast less other ways an excellent léns.
CZJ Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 MC
First class lens.
Meyer Trioplan 100mm f/2.8
It has very unique character, hate it or love it yo will decide.
Pentacon 100mm f/2.8
Rare, nice lens , excellent for portraits
Pentacon 29mm f/2.8 Red MC
Some people love it some don't , quality is not stable , perhaps this is the reason.
CZC Sonnar 135mm f/3.5 Red MC
First class lens, not many better 135mm lens available especially for this price.
You can found plenty of samples taken with above lenses , here.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Throndor
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Location: Ankara / TURKEY
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Throndor wrote:
Thanx for your lightning fast reply.. What do you think i should pay max for the ones stated as first class? 50$, 150$.. gonna pay shipping around 15$ for each..
Oh i can not wait till i get my hands and eyes on them.. wonderful forum here BTW..
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Omer
Pentax K100D super
Pentax DA 18-55 AL
Pentax SMC-FA 50 f/1.4
Aus Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 (Zebra)
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135/3.5
Varexon 35/2.8
Helios 44-2 58/2
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: Hungary
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
http://www.mflenses.com/rokreporter/run.html
You can find prices here db contains 17000+ ebay salles from last two years.
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007
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Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Wanna be MFer here.. Opinions on my first purchases.. |
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LucisPictor wrote:
| Throndor wrote: |
CZJ Flektogon Red MC 35mm f/2.4
CZJ Flektogon 35mm f/2.8
CZJ Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 MC
Meyer Trioplan 100mm f/2.8
Pentacon 100mm f/2.8
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CZC Sonnar 135mm f/3.5 Red MC |
Very good lenses indeed, but IMHO really overpriced at the moment.
You can find lenses that perform on the same level for less money.
Allow me to suggest some:
CZJ Flektogon Red MC 35mm f/2.4 --- Nikkor 2.0/35 (OK, not cheaper, but even better.  )
CZJ Flektogon 35mm f/2.8 --- Asahi Takumar 3.5/35 (OK, slower but not that much.) Or in both cases the MIR-1B 2.8/37.
CZJ Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 MC --- Asahi Takumar 1.4/50 or Olympus Zuiko 1.4/50 or Nikkor 1.4/50
Meyer Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 --- Kaleinar 2.8/100 or Asahi Takumar 2.8/105
Pentacon 100mm f/2.8 --- s.o.
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CZC Sonnar 135mm f/3.5 Red MC --- Nikkor 3.5/135
| Throndor wrote: |
I am so gonna get them.. |
OK, go then...
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Nesster
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Since you have a Pentax camera, I'd suggest any of the M42 or K mount lenses out there. You'll get a good standard of performance with any Pentax prime, whether Super Takumar or later. Also, don't forget the Vivitars, Tamrons et al... for the price many are very good indeed.
Personally, I like the 35 and 28 focal lengths with the crop camera. The Super Tak (and variants) of the 35/3.5 are very good lenses, apart from being slow. I like these a bit better than the 28/3.5's. In K mount you can also get 3.5's or 2.8's for a bit more speed.
With the 50, nearly ANY lens will give you at least good to excellent performance. The differences between the stars and supporting cast are very small. Again, any Pentax will be excellent to try, I'd go by price...
Good luck, and hope to see you posting MF pics soon 
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Throndor
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Location: Ankara / TURKEY
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Throndor wrote:
Yep, I'll post a couple as soon as I get my hands on the lenses..
and that pricing list has been really helpful.. so thanx
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Omer
Pentax K100D super
Pentax DA 18-55 AL
Pentax SMC-FA 50 f/1.4
Aus Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 (Zebra)
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135/3.5
Varexon 35/2.8
Helios 44-2 58/2
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
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Location: Argentina
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
'm tired about 28 or 35 mm. The view of them not surprise me more.
Try to 17/21 mm.
Your list is very good for me, except 100's mm and 29 mm., and specially goods ones the 50 pancolar and the 135 sonnar.
I have the 35/2,4 and wait more for it.
Good luck and enjoy!!!!
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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merelyok
Joined: 03 Aug 2008
Posts: 118
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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merelyok wrote:
The 50mm pancolar is a WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL piece of glass.
I highly recommend it.
The 35mm 2.8 flektogon is really quite good too. |
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Throndor
Joined: 15 Sep 2008
Posts: 157
Location: Ankara / TURKEY
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Throndor wrote:
So I'm focusing on ;
50 1.8 Pancolar MC
35 2.4 Flektagon MC
135 3.5 Sonnar MC
It feels like "if its MC than get it"..
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Omer
Pentax K100D super
Pentax DA 18-55 AL
Pentax SMC-FA 50 f/1.4
Aus Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 (Zebra)
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135/3.5
Varexon 35/2.8
Helios 44-2 58/2
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no-X
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Posts: 2495
Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
As for CZJ lenses - yes!
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
Posts: 3754
Location: Argentina
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Throndor
The CZJ 35/2,4 is a great lens, of course, but I found that isn't pair.
The center is very, very sharp. At the border it becomes less sharp - very noticiable for me.
The panky 50/1,8 is much pair. At center isn't as sharp as 35/2,4 but at corners is very sharp, more than the 35/2,4.
May be, if you are agree, that a 20 mm (in CZJ if you want it) can be more convenient. 35 and 50, are too close ?
Regards, Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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