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Lazzaros
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 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:19 am Post subject: Voigtlander Bessa-L Vs Voitglander Bessa-R |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I'm looking for my firts RF camera and I'm really liking Voigtlander Bessa's looking.
I know that Bessa-L is cheaper and to start maybe it is better but Bessa-R could use amazing lens (I don't know if Bessa-L does it too).
I'm newbie in RF cameras and I'm reading some reviews.
Konica Hexar AF looks great too and it isn't too much expensive.
What do you think about these and what prices you think would be fair in Europe?
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Start with a Yashica Electro 35 , perfect camera and dirt cheap.
It produced me better result than any other with cheap film.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/filmcamera/yashica_electro_35/
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
I'd like to get one with intermutable lenses. I know Konica Hexar can't do that but Voigtlander Bessa-L looks me "cheap" and I can get some nice M39 lenses.
Am I right?  |
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
yes, right. I am happy owner of a Bessa-L with a 15mm Heliar lens.
Bessa-L has no built in rangefinder, you can use only with external one or with superwide lenses like me.
Russian rangefinders are great and cheap ones, Bessa-R serie also.
Bessa-L 15mm
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/filmcamera/Voigtlander/bessa_L_voigtlander_heliar_Tenerife/
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Wich price do you think is fair for Bessa-L body? |
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I found three entries
http://www.mflenses.com/index.php/component/option,com_rokreporter/report,priceguide/task,run/
around 50 GBP.
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koji
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Lazzaros,
Bessa-L does not have a range-finder though,
Bessa-Rxx do have one. (xx= , 2, 3A, 3M, 4A, 4M)
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Oh, I just get an idea from Koji, why do you not looking Contax G1 at keh.com , one of the greatest camera.
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Koji I didn't understand what you want to say. It isn't a rangefinder camera?
G1 is a little bit expensive right now :S |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Wait a bit more a bargain G1 below 200 USD. Real bargain is Zorki-4 for example.
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Bought Bessa-L for 52€ like new 
I'm looking for a good lens now...
Could I use any kind of M39 lenses? Even the older one? |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
| Lazzaros wrote: |
Bought Bessa-L for 52€ like new
I'm looking for a good lens now...
Could I use any kind of M39 lenses? Even the older one? |
Unfortunately not all from older ones, some of them hit light meter sensor like Jupiter-12 it's going to deep into body. Andy (F16Sunshine ) able to answer to you with more details.
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Many thanks Attila.
It would be good to know wich one I couldn't use to avoid some bad investiments. |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
50 EUR was really good deal! Congrats!
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Bought an Heliar 15mm + viewfinder and... another Bessa-L body. I bought the all kit.
Now I have 2 Bessa-L and I can sell one. |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I love mine, great for architecture type shots:
Is one of yours an all-black model? |
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Lazzaros
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Lazzaros wrote:
Mine is the silver one.
I can't wait to get it  |
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voLs
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voLs wrote:
hi Lazzaros,
i'm also looking for a Bessa L but no luck so far.
seems you got yourself a good bargain! |
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koji
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
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Koji I didn't understand what you want to say. It isn't a rangefinder camera?
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Bessa-L does not have a finder, so range-finder (ie. distance measuring
small finder partch which is linked to lens' helicoid mechanism) is not
there for a precise focusing. Of course you can use wide angle lenses
by guessing distance to the object. Sorry for a late answer.
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voLs
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voLs wrote:
the all black kit looks cool but from what i've read elsewhere, certain metal parts have been replaced with plastic
from a user pov, i'd pick the chrome one. i actually like the heavier weight and i'm prolly misled to think metal parts last longer and can take more hits!  more importantly, chrome is lighter on my wallet 
15mm is too wide for me, i'd get the 25mm snapshot. |
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