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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: SMC Takumar 55/1.8 |
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Laurence wrote:
I have a chance to pick this SMC Takumar 55/1.8 for about $20 from a camera club member. Would this be worth my money? I see the reviews, both here and elsewhere on the net. The reviews are mixed.
There is also a Takumar 200/5.6 for $35 available, and I know NOTHING about this lens. Web reviews are scattered and don't tell me much.
Both lenses are as good as new, very little use if any at all.
Yes...I know! Probably I should just get the lenses and see for myself...right?
Anyway, any opinions would help.
Larry _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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orly_andico
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 253 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: |
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orly_andico wrote:
both ought to be good deals
if you're really persistent you can get a 50mm or 55mm takumar for $10 on ebay. but the seller will charge you $10 for shipping.
the 200/5.6 also seems a nice bet. for $35 what you can usually get is only a third-party 200mm lens. |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
They both are good deals, I think. You might bargain the prices down a few dollars, especially if you offer to buy both.
I bought my AUTO-tak 55 for $10 at a camera fair, but then spent a few extra $$ at the next table to get the missing lens caps for it.
Regarding reviews, you have to take them with a bit of salt: even new lenses have sample variability, and old ones magnify that. And given the nature of the net and humanity, if someone can trump everyone else by 'proving' the lens is crappy, they probably will.
My lowly AUTO is just as sharp as my two samples of the 50/1.4 (as Super and a SMC) and in fact doesn't have the CA wide open on digital the faster lenses have. The 55 S-M-C that passed through my hands was even better. _________________ -Jussi
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Yep, I agree about the 55mm. $20 is a great price for zewrak's currently favourite lens:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zewrak/2710667252/in/photostream
http://forum.mflenses.com/super-takumar-55mm-f-1-8-fiddler-girls-t8398.html
$35 for a 5.6/200 is a good price too, but I think I'd rather spend just a bit more on a 4/200. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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zewrak
Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 1212
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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zewrak wrote:
Seriously. You hardly get a ticket to the movies for 20$. The 55/1.8 is the most underpriced lens there is. Simple as that. Sure you can get the Helios 58/2 cheaper or wait until the right time on ebay. But 20$ is nothing, considering what you get.
The 5.6 I don't know much about. But same thing applies here. Don't buy a few pizzas this month and you can afford it. Albeit, you can probably get a 200/4 for same or less, but then you have to pay shipping etc. I bought my last 200/4 for £17.
Most of my pictures are taken with 55 on my flickr. And it is hard to beat, even though I now got the more expensive (alot more expensive) 85/1.9 I still do struggle to decide what lens to take out when I go out for casual shooting.
Conclusion, get them both. If you dont like the 200 I am sure you can sell it with no loss. The 55 I have no doubt about that you will keep. _________________ My homepage, all manual shots |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
Made curious by zewrak and attracted by the 55mm which make abt. 82mm on my Pentax I got a Super Tak 55mm 1.8 ( and recently ran acrioss a SMC Tak 55mm f1.8 and got it as well )
Most users would rate the 50mm f1.4 higher, but I prefer the 55mm when shooting daytime. Both my Super Tak and S.M.C. Tak 50mm f1.4 often produce a 'smeared' image when used during daytime and rather open, the 55mm doesn't do that and has a pleasant out of focus rendition as well.
I second zewrak, this is a very underrated lens!
- and can be had cheaply, highly recommended.
Super Tak 55mm f1.8:
( did I post this photo before? )
SMC Tak 55mm f1.8
( don't have much choice yet, but taken today: )
best greetings,
Andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Another thread ruined! Could you please stick to the 900 wide limit when you post pictures. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: ruined |
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kuuan wrote:
sorry Peterqd, I corrected that
( My photos are hosted with flickr which gives the option to link to 'medium' or 'big' size. Medium - the one shown now - seemes too small to appreciate the lens performance and therefore usually choose 'big'. As this is just over the 900 px I had asked various times in previous posts of mine if anybody had a problem with that, and so far nobody has had.
Now that you do have a problem with that I reposted them in smaller size ) _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
sorry Peterqd, I corrected that
( My photos are hosted with flickr which gives the option to link to 'medium' or 'big' size. Medium - the one shown now - seemes too small to appreciate the lens performance and therefore usually choose 'big'. As this is just over the 900 px I had asked various times in previous posts of mine if anybody had a problem with that, and so far nobody has had.
Not that you do have a problem I reposted them in smaller size ) |
Thanks very much. I didn't see any of your requests.
Frankly it IS annoying. It's not the size of the pictures themselves - I can just fit a whole 1024 picture on my 1280 screen, but for some reason when a thread contains a large picture, every line of text in the thread scrolls off the screen and it's impossible to read the text and see the complete pictures at the same time. 900 works perfectly.
I'm really sorry I seem to be the only one who needs to complain and I really do wish it wasn't necessary. We had a poll ages ago and 900 was the most popular size. For some reason it's not possible for the forum to automatically resize pictures to keep to that limit, or even to reject over-large ones.
I agree the Medium size pictures from Flikr are too small. Why don't you host your pictures yourself like I do? You can upload to your storage area provided free by your ISP. I get 250Mb free with www.plus.net _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
Made curious by zewrak and attracted by the 55mm which make abt. 82mm on my Pentax I got a Super Tak 55mm 1.8 ( and recently ran acrioss a SMC Tak 55mm f1.8 and got it as well )
Most users would rate the 50mm f1.4 higher, but I prefer the 55mm when shooting daytime. Both my Super Tak and S.M.C. Tak 50mm f1.4 often produce a 'smeared' image when used during daytime and rather open, the 55mm doesn't do that and has a pleasant out of focus rendition as well.
I second zewrak, this is a very underrated lens!
- and can be had cheaply, highly recommended.
Super Tak 55mm f1.8:
( did I post this photo before? )
SMC Tak 55mm f1.8
( don't have much choice yet, but taken today: )
best greetings,
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Great samples! Most of 50mm lenses are great and very underrated, especially the slower ones. _________________ -------------------------------
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
But this is one of the most radioactive lenses Pentax ever made, see another thread about "radioactive lens". _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
200mm f5.6 rather crap than good one _________________ -------------------------------
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
koji wrote: |
But this is one of the most radioactive lenses Pentax ever made, see another thread about "radioactive lens". |
So what? If it was in any way dangerous you could never put it near a film. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
koji wrote: |
But this is one of the most radioactive lenses Pentax ever made, see another thread about "radioactive lens". |
So what? If it was in any way dangerous you could never put it near a film. |
That for sure , best answer in this matter! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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peterm1
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 224
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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peterm1 wrote:
Both are good lenses. If their condition is OK, grab them. The 55mm is rated as one of Pentaxes sharpest and best perfoming early lenses. The 200mm f5.6 (preset ) is also very well regarded. _________________ PeterM |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Frankly it IS annoying....
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I agree the Medium size pictures from Flikr are too small. Why don't you host your pictures yourself like I do? You can upload to your storage area provided free by your ISP. I get 250Mb free with www.plus.net |
sorry again for the annoyment and thankx for the suggestion.
I do have a photobucket account and I just uploaded 900 : xxx photos there to host the photos of my post which now again appear bigger in my original post. Is their size OK?
( So far I have not been aware that somebody was annoyed by the 1024 : xxx size I had chosen the more convenient way to host flickr where the photos are uploaded already instead of going through first reducing the photo to the desired size and uploading again to photobucket )
cheers,
Andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Thanks again Andreas The 900 size is perfect, and make your pictures much better to see. The flower is superb. I make 2 sizes when I'm converting from RAW - full size and 900w for displaying on the forum.
I feel the top two performers of my 50mm lenses are the 1.8/50 Pancolar and the 1.4/50 Super-Tak. The 1.8/55 S-M-C Tak is next, just not quite as sharp, but still excellent. But the individual variation of lenses could easily give different results with other copies. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Razster
Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 101
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Razster wrote:
Same Radioactive goes for my Super-Tak 55mm, It has a yellowish tint to the lens because of the wonderful elemits, but I fixed that thanks too http://www.flickr.com/groups/spotmatic/discuss/121461/
I left it out in the Wonderful Redding, CA sun and in 4 days noticed the yellow tint was going away - though I admit I like the yellow tone to all of my photos, giving it a warm feel, but I like it even better now.
Same for the 35m Super-Tak :/ |
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