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zewrak
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Attila
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Nice capture, it show nice atmosphere, bit harsh to me like a Russian lens.
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A G Photography
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To be honest I'm more interested in that place where there are so many wonderful musicians
I could take out some of my guitars and ask for a jam session  
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zewrak
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Before cross process, incase that screws stuff up for you Attila. 
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Asahi Auto Takumar 85/1.8
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A G Photography
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I like more the original colors. I'm finding out that cross processing is good for very limited subjects (despite the "ahhh" and "oohhh" about it on Flickr... my god... I'm becoming like Orio  )
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My Blog about Italian Cuisine and Photography
My Photostream on Flickr
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RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie
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CZJ m42: Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 58/2, Sonnar 135/3.5, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5
Russians: Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schact Travegon 35/3.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 55/2, Vivitar 135/2.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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Attila
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Thank you I like genuine colors, before processed too.
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zewrak
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| A G Photography wrote: | | I like more the original colors. I'm finding out that cross processing is good for very limited subjects (despite the "ahhh" and "oohhh" about it on Flickr... my god... I'm becoming like Orio ) |
Hehe. I am trying different styles out to get to know what I like the most. My flicker consist of different batches.
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Asahi Super Takumar 20/4.5 50/1.4 55/1.8 85/1.9 105/2.8 135/3.5 150/4 200/4
Asahi S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5 300/4
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A G Photography
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I probably don't have anything to teach to you (your shots are really good indeed) but what it worked with me is shot with the final result already in mind.
For example cross processing works better with sky in the background and some backlighting because it usually used together with desatured colors.
The actual "trend" also makes use of textures to come out painting like.
A bit like here (not mine):
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My Photostream on Flickr
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DSLR: Nikon d80, Olympus e410
SLR: Chinon CX, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6
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CZJ m42: Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 58/2, Sonnar 135/3.5, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5
Russians: Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schact Travegon 35/3.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 55/2, Vivitar 135/2.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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zewrak
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| A G Photography wrote: | I probably don't have anything to teach to you (your shots are really good indeed) but what it worked with me is shot with the final result already in mind.
For example cross processing works better with sky in the background and some backlighting because it usually used together with desatured colors.
The actual "trend" also makes use of textures to come out painting like.
A bit like here (not mine):
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Indeed your right, surely that applies to most pictures, to have the outcome in the mind at the time of exposure. I'm not that lucky, I hope it comes in time. Training makes perfection.
I like the effect of just desaturating it though, kind of reminds me of some photos of me from when I was a wee lad back in the seventies. It also gives some kind of melancoly that I like. Maybe not in the fiddler girls picture, but in this for example (whipped it togehter for this post).
PS. I am not arguing that I am right or your wrong. I am geniunly intrested in what you have to say.
PS2. I am sure your more of a authority on whats a good picture then me, I have only been doing photography for 3 months. I always have respect for the elders.
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Asahi Takumar 105/2.8 135/3.5
Asahi Super Takumar 20/4.5 50/1.4 55/1.8 85/1.9 105/2.8 135/3.5 150/4 200/4
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Rob Leslie
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I am taking my Takumar f1.8 55mm lens out this weekend for its 40th birthday. A lovely lens I have used on film and digital.
Very nice photo. I think I like the cross processing, I assume you are doing it digitally? There are some good ways with plenty of control. I use a Lab mode copy layer method.
‘I am trying different styles out to get to know what I like the most’
IMO you are doing well and choosing the right results to fit the image.
Effects and adjustments are not about changing an image just for the hell of it and to see what fits. They should be about adjusting the image to what you see in your minds eye. I believe you re doing this.
You have clearly shown this in your last post. Well done.
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zewrak
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| Rob Leslie wrote: | I am taking my Takumar f1.8 55mm lens out this weekend for its 40th birthday. A lovely lens I have used on film and digital.
Very nice photo. I think I like the cross processing, I assume you are doing it digitally? There are some good ways with plenty of control. I use a Lab mode copy layer method.
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Im a cheater, I use Curves and then Hue/saturation. Will try out doing it manually in Lab. Thanks for advice
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‘I am trying different styles out to get to know what I like the most’
IMO you are doing well and choosing the right results to fit the image.
Effects and adjustments are not about changing an image just for the hell of it and to see what fits. They should be about adjusting the image to what you see in your minds eye. I believe you re doing this.
You have clearly shown this in your last post. Well done. |
Thank you very much.
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PENTAX K10D, Spotmatic
Asahi Auto Takumar 85/1.8
Asahi Takumar 105/2.8 135/3.5
Asahi Super Takumar 20/4.5 50/1.4 55/1.8 85/1.9 105/2.8 135/3.5 150/4 200/4
Asahi S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5 300/4
Asahi S-M-C Macro-Takumar 50/4,100/4
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Katastrofo
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I like the last shot a lot. You didn't have a cold the day you took
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A G Photography
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Yep, in the last shot desaturation works well mainly because of the wooden texture. Good choice indeed.
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SLR: Chinon CX, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6
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CZJ m42: Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 58/2, Sonnar 135/3.5, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5
Russians: Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schact Travegon 35/3.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 55/2, Vivitar 135/2.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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Rob Leslie
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| zewrak wrote: | | Rob Leslie wrote: | I am taking my Takumar f1.8 55mm lens out this weekend for its 40th birthday. A lovely lens I have used on film and digital.
Very nice photo. I think I like the cross processing, I assume you are doing it digitally? There are some good ways with plenty of control. I use a Lab mode copy layer method.
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Im a cheater, I use Curves and then Hue/saturation. Will try out doing it manually in Lab. Thanks for advice
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‘I am trying different styles out to get to know what I like the most’
IMO you are doing well and choosing the right results to fit the image.
Effects and adjustments are not about changing an image just for the hell of it and to see what fits. They should be about adjusting the image to what you see in your minds eye. I believe you re doing this.
You have clearly shown this in your last post. Well done. |
Thank you very much. |
Here is a Link to the method I use.
http://roblesliephotography.blogspot.com/2008/01/digital-cross-processed.html
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Orio
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Very nice image, zewrak. I like the tight closeup, it really works well for me.
About the cross processing, what about a little white balancing instead, to lessen a bit the "red ham" effect on the flesh of the original?
Another possibility to fight the "red ham" is the B&W.
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