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caspert79
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 Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:33 pm Post subject: Sigma Super Wide 24mm f/2.8 mkII impression |
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caspert79 wrote:
Some first impressions of this interesting lens:
The image quality doesn't suffer too much in most difficult lighting situations:
 SigmaSuperWide242839 by devoscasper, on Flickr
1:4 reproduction is possible with this lens; you can get very close to your subject. Definitely a plus.
 SigmaSuperWide242840 by devoscasper, on Flickr
The lens delivers sharp (although not perfectly sharp up untill the corners on a high res full frame camera ) and contrasty images, with good saturated colors.
 SigmaSuperWide242842 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Wide open with closeby subject: very sharp indeed.
 SigmaSuperWide242844 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Bokeh is not too bad for a 24mm:
 SigmaSuperWide242845 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Overall image quality: good enough for me!
 SigmaSuperWide242846 by devoscasper, on Flickr
Conclusion: this lens is pretty good IMO. It's close focusing ability makes is a lot of fun to play with. Straight out of the camera, the images look very good (no post processing needed). It's very compact as well. Definitely a lens I will take with me a lot.
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stevemark
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| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
The Sigma Super Wide II 2.8/24mm is one of the best 2.8/24mm lenses of its time - along with the Minolta MD-III 2.8/24mm and the Canon nFD 2.8/24mm or the Minolta AF 2.8/24mm (which is a completely different computation than the MD-III).
Very useable on 24 MP FF, I wouldn't recommend it on 50 MP FF class cameras unless you go for optimal apertures (around f8 or f11) plus some postprocessing.
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LittleAlex
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| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
My congratulations!
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DrBB
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| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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DrBB wrote:
I have 5 different 24mm (and 25mm) lenses and Sigma Super-Wide II 24mm f2.8 is definitely best one when it comes to price/sharpness/color. But, it doesn't have "that something" |
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Vintage_Photographer
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| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
This is a very timely post as I'm looking at one to use on my Contax RX.
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stevemark
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| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
| DrBB wrote: |
| I have 5 different 24mm (and 25mm) lenses and Sigma Super-Wide II 24mm f2.8 is definitely best one when it comes to price/sharpness/color. But, it doesn't have "that something" |
Interesting - can you show us two images shooting the same subject side-by-side ....
1) with the Sigma Super Wide II and
2) with another lens of your choice, having "that something"??
I'm sure that would be interesting to many of us, including me!
S
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kiddo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
| Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
| This is a very timely post as I'm looking at one to use on my Contax RX. |
i have the distagon 25mm c/y (nice lens by the way) but i couldn´t resist buying one of these sigma for minolta, as minolta wide angles i cannot find cheap and this one came for a very reasonable price - |
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Vintage_Photographer
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
| kiddo wrote: |
| Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
| This is a very timely post as I'm looking at one to use on my Contax RX. |
i have the distagon 25mm c/y (nice lens by the way) but i couldn´t resist buying one of these sigma for minolta, as minolta wide angles i cannot find cheap and this one came for a very reasonable price - |
How does the Sigma compare to the Distagon 25mm?
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Fuji X-E2 and X-T4 with Fuji 18-55 AF, 18-135 AF, TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF, 7.5/2 Fisheye, 35/1.4, 7Artisans 18/6.3, Samyang 12mm/2 AF, Tamron SP90 (on Nikon adapter), Ilford Sportsman, Zeiss IKon Contina II and Zeiss Ikoflex 1 TLR. |
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kiddo
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kiddo wrote:
| Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
| kiddo wrote: |
| Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
| This is a very timely post as I'm looking at one to use on my Contax RX. |
i have the distagon 25mm c/y (nice lens by the way) but i couldn´t resist buying one of these sigma for minolta, as minolta wide angles i cannot find cheap and this one came for a very reasonable price - |
How does the Sigma compare to the Distagon 25mm? |
we`ll have to see, i am waiting for the sigma , but i am also very curious , for now i only have an early full metal nikkor 24mm that needs f11 for extreme corners on 24mp sony FF (zeiss about the same, but i remember it had some more details overall) |
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visualopsins
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visualopsins wrote:
 Very, very impressive!!! (I can smell the grass in the last photo!)
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
It is a very nice lens. My best 24mm. Quite difficult to find a good sample. Had to buy many to find not tilted copies. If you are not happy with your copy, check that it is in good shape before considering it is a bad design.
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Impressive pictures Lumens!
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DrBB
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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DrBB wrote:
| stevemark wrote: |
| DrBB wrote: |
| I have 5 different 24mm (and 25mm) lenses and Sigma Super-Wide II 24mm f2.8 is definitely best one when it comes to price/sharpness/color. But, it doesn't have "that something" |
Interesting - can you show us two images shooting the same subject side-by-side ....
1) with the Sigma Super Wide II and
2) with another lens of your choice, having "that something"??
I'm sure that would be interesting to many of us, including me!
S |
Hey stevemark, sorry, saw your reply right now. Yeah, i'll do it but it'll have to wait for month or so (in the process of moving so not sure if i can find my head in all this mess  )
btw. amazing shoots lumens! |
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stevemark
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
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Hey stevemark, sorry, saw your reply right now. Yeah, i'll do it but it'll have to wait for month or so (in the process of moving so not sure if i can find my head in all this mess )
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Thanks a lot!
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Vintage_Photographer
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
You lot are a very bad influence.
One has been purchased for £45 for my Contax RX. Interestingly it appears it has the external tag to operate the TV/P capability on the camera. Only one I've seen with that tag.
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e6filmuser
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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e6filmuser wrote:
On A7r:
https://forum.mflenses.com/sigma-super-wide-ii-24mm-2-8-multi-coated-on-a7r-t80478,highlight,%2Bsigma+%2Band+%2B24mm.html
On A7r3:
https://forum.mflenses.com/sigma-super-wide-ii-12-8-24mm-on-a7r3-t81981,highlight,%2Bsigma+%2Band+%2B24mm.html
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stevemark
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Since its already dark outside I've used a garment used by Tibetan monks for Sacred Dances. It depicts the Great Protector, Mahakala -
and it has enough detail to say something about the corner performance of a few well known vintage 2.8/24mm (25mm) lenses 
* Canon FD 2.8/24mm "silvernose"
* Konica AR 2.8/24mm (first computation)
* Minolta MD-I 2.8/24mm (first computation; later MD-II/MD-III is better)
* Nikkor AiS 2.8/24mm (therefore second computation)
* Sigma 2.8/24mm "Super Wide II" (newest lens of this comparison)
* Yashica ML 2.8/24mm
* Zeiss CY Distagon 2.8/25mm
DOWNLOAD AND WATCH IN A SEPARATE SOFTWARE SUCH AS PHOTOSHOP AT 100% -
THE "INTELLIGENT" BROWSERS THESE DAYS ARE WILDY RESIZING / ADJUSTING / "IMPROVING" MY CAREFULLY CREATED TEST IMAGES ...
CLICK TWICE ON THE IMAGE TO GET FULL RESOLUTION, THEN DOWNLOAD (OTHERWISE A LOWER RES PIC WILL BE SAVED)
There's no doubt that the Super Wide II is among the best vintage 24mm lenses of its time - comparable to the Minolta MD-III 2.8/24mm and the Canon new FD 2.8/24mm (both not shown here). It's certainly no coincidence that those three lenses mentioned (MD-III, nFD and Sigma) are the newest computations ...
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lumens pixel
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lumens pixel wrote:
Completely agree. Thanks for the test. Most interesting is the performance @f5,6 where differences are obvious.
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Stephan, thanks for your test. It doesn’t surprise me the Sigma does a good job.
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Vintage_Photographer
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
Interesting test results.
Looking forward to mine arriving.
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Mamiya 645 TL Pro with 80mm and 110mm Sekor C, Rolleiflex SL35 with Rollei HFT 50mm/1.8, Rolleinar 135/2.8, 200/3.5, Pentacon 28/2.8 and Horizont 35/2.8, Minolta SRT100X, Rokkor 35-70mm f/3.5, Rokkor 100-300mm f/5.6.
Fuji X-E2 and X-T4 with Fuji 18-55 AF, 18-135 AF, TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF, 7.5/2 Fisheye, 35/1.4, 7Artisans 18/6.3, Samyang 12mm/2 AF, Tamron SP90 (on Nikon adapter), Ilford Sportsman, Zeiss IKon Contina II and Zeiss Ikoflex 1 TLR. |
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