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SVP
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: More Astro-Berlin stuff |
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SVP wrote:
Three Astro Pan-Tachar teles (125/2.3, 150/2.3 & 200/2.3) all modified (by me) to Hasselblad F mount. Quite serious glass in their era, and rather big too - the 35/2.8 Flektogon is for size comparison purposes:
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luisalegria
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Its a pity theres no green emoticon to indicate extreme envy. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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kds315*
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:56 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Well done job Spyros and very nice lenses!
Cheers, _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Spotmatic
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
I like your dedication to Astro-Berlin lenses. When did this all start and why? _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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SVP
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Well done job Spyros and very nice lenses!
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Thanks a lot, very kind of you.
Spotmatic wrote: |
I like your dedication to Astro-Berlin lenses. When did this all start and why? |
Actually it was in the early days of eBay (I'm an active member since 1999) when the whole thing started. I was curious to explore the quality of this less known German lens manufacturer who managed to survive till the '90s with rather interesting - albeit mechanically simple and movie-derived - lens designs. Soon I ended up with a significant amount of various long-focus lenses in a number of focal lengths... |
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SVP
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
This is a crowded corner hosting two Astro-Fernbildlinsen (6.3/1000 Hassy 2000F mount & 5/640 Hassy 1600F mount) plus an Astro-Apo-Telastan 5.6/600 (Praktina mount):
The white stranger in the group is a Birns & Sawyer Omnitar aka TEWE-Berlin Telon 6.3/1000 (Primarflex mount), shown here alone:
The differences between the then competing Astro-Berlin and TEWE-Berlin designs are more than obvious. |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I know its a bit difficult to make pixel-peeping comparisons with these, as they are mounted for MF cameras, but what would your opinion be as to the resolution/contrast and general optical quality of the Astro lenses ? _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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SVP
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
I know its a bit difficult to make pixel-peeping comparisons with these, as they are mounted for MF cameras, but what would your opinion be as to the resolution/contrast and general optical quality of the Astro lenses ? |
There exist quite few types of Astro-Berlin lenses with many specialised series among them making it rather impossible to summarize their qualities. Having said that, if I had to do a very short comment as regards the most commonly found ones, namely Tachar/Pan-Tachar and Fernbildlinse families -and purely based on the samples I have used to date- this would have been: good to high resolving power / medium to medium plus contrast / overall good to excellent optical quality / excellent plus mechanical quality & engineering. |
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Laurence
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Simply WONDERFUL! I would love to see more of these, especially your nice lineup of the three Astro-Pan Tachars (and I'll bet others would too).
They look so....Retro...yet so obviously excellent in construction. This looks like SERIOUS glass. ![Shocked](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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keithjg
Joined: 22 Jan 2010 Posts: 2 Location: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:53 pm Post subject: My astro-berlin, help with ID'ing the mount? |
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keithjg wrote:
Hello,
I have one of the astro-berliin 1000mm f/6.3 lenses with a unitron telescope focuser attached. I am trying to figure out what kind of mount it is, and if I can find an adapter to Nikon or Canon. It works well as a telescope with eyepieces 20mm or larger, It cannot focus at infinity beyond that as the focuser tube will not shorten up enough.
I have posted a picture of the mount end. Can anyone help me ID the mount style? The focuser attaches using a screw on ring 65mm in diameter.
I would love to use this as a camera lens, or find a home for it with someone who can use it.
Keith Garrett
Wolfeboro NH USA
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keithjg
Joined: 22 Jan 2010 Posts: 2 Location: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: Picture link |
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keithjg wrote:
error post, cant delete this one. I forgot how much I dislike phpbb forum.
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Nelson
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Nelson wrote:
![](http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/3d-surpris-non.gif) _________________ DSLR : EOS 350D, 300D, 7D, 5D
Pentacon 50 f1.8, 135 f2.8, 200 f4;
TAIR 3S
Helios 44/2
Meyer Optik Orestegor 200mm f4 Orestegor 300mm f4
Tamron 24mm f2.5 01B, 300mm f5.6 670Au, 75 250, 300mm f5.6 SP 54B, 500mm f8 SP 55B, SP 70 210 3.5, SP 60 300
my MF lenses
EF 50 1.8 I, EF 100macro f2.8, EF 70-200 F4 L is, EFS 17-55 f2.8 is, Sigma 10-20 EX, 18-50 2.8 EX, 300 f4 hsm, 400 5.6 hsm |
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kansalliskala
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
![](http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/3d-surpris-non.gif) ![](http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/3d-surpris-non.gif) _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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SVP
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
Looks quite different than my own samples of the same lens (I own four in total). Actually it lacks the whole rear part of the lens behind the focusing helicoid, having in its place the telescope focuser. Obviously manufactured by Astro-Berlin on behalf of Sterling-Howard and probably converted into a telescope by the latter, the mount looks rather factory-modified. |
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dickb
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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dickb wrote:
Since this thread appears to contain some serious Astro Werke knowledge I'm wondering if anyone here can fill me in on a few details about my most unusual telephoto lens.
I've got an Astro-Berlin 640mm f/4.5 C lens. The previous (and first) owner claimed it was a special order lens made for an American nature photographer, who wanted to use it on a Pentax 645 camera. Unfortunately, he died in a tragic accident and the lens was never finished or delivered. The previous owner bought it after the company ceased to exist.
This lens appears to be a variation of the older 640mm f/5, and is claimed to be optimised for a smaller film format. It is a astonishingly simple 2 element achromatic design, relatively lightweight but very long, similar in design to the Leitz Telyt 800mm and 560mm. It consists of a lens head with aperture mechanism and a separate modified Pentacon 6 bellows on a heavy tripod adapter base. The lens is quite sharp, though with CA wide open not up to modern APO designs.
Does anyone know of a nature photographer that fits the above description? I've got no clue when he died, just that it has to be before 1991 when the Astro Werke closed shop. |
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CactusJackSlade
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:27 am Post subject: Are there adapters available for an Astro-Berlin 1000mm 6.3? |
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CactusJackSlade wrote:
Hello All,
New to this forum, hello
I joined this forum and revived this thread for a very specific reason:
Very recently I acquired a very, VERY good condition Astro-Berlin 1000mm 6.3. This is all great, but unless I can find an adapter to a modern camera, or even some sort of digital sensor this is a very large coffee table conversation piece that is already annoying my wife!
If they are not available, could one be machined? Being that it is MF, I suppose the distance to whatever camera sensor could be off by a tad?
I am really shooing in the dark here (lol) so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Photo is attached, but not showing up?
Thank you!
CJS![](http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20244/12603_AstroBerlin1000mmAuction_1.jpg) _________________ Cactus Jack Slade |
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visualopsins
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:40 am Post subject: Re: Are there adapters available for an Astro-Berlin 1000mm |
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visualopsins wrote:
CactusJackSlade wrote: |
Hello All,
New to this forum, hello
I joined this forum and revived this thread for a very specific reason:
Very recently I acquired a very, VERY good condition Astro-Berlin 1000mm 6.3. This is all great, but unless I can find an adapter to a modern camera, or even some sort of digital sensor this is a very large coffee table conversation piece that is already annoying my wife!
If they are not available, could one be machined? Being that it is MF, I suppose the distance to whatever camera sensor could be off by a tad?
I am really shooing in the dark here (lol) so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Photo is attached, but not showing up?
Thank you!
CJS![](http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20244/12603_AstroBerlin1000mmAuction_1.jpg) |
Welcome CactusJackSlade! (no photos first post is spam filter; should be ok now)
Somebody here will know what mount & which camera adapters are available... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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kds315*
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:02 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Klaus Rademacher in Germany is specialized collector of ASTRO BERLIN lenses, he surely would know!
http://www.exaklaus.de/homepage.htm
and
http://www.exaklaus.de/astro.htm
Despite his site being in German, he does speak English, too!
I would assume this mount being for a film camera the way it looks like (the old Arriflex mount I presume)
You could also contact using PersonalMessages (PM) the original poster SVP, my friend Spyros in Athens/Greece! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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CactusJackSlade
Joined: 11 Apr 2024 Posts: 2
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CactusJackSlade wrote:
Thank you, I will check out those links! _________________ Cactus Jack Slade |
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