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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1616 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:40 pm Post subject: Sigma APO Macro 180mm 1:5.6 |
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blotafton wrote:
Here is a strange lens that I've never seen before.
So I got it to do some testing.
It's equipped with the excellent Minolta mount. One of my favorites.
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First impressions.
Very compact.
As you can see it does not extend when focusing. I actually thought it was broken for a second because it seemed that nothing happened when focusing.
But it worked. However the focusing feels a bit unsmooth.
I guess the blue number 2 indicates 1:2 magnification factor.
#3 That's a good looking front lens!
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Test shots taken with a Sony A7:
Pretty good but not amazing. I think the good 90-100mm macro lenses produces better results but if you need 180mm this will get the job done.
They are taken with raw format and I have increased brightness and contrast.
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#6 At MFD
#7 100% crop at MFD.
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#9 APO test
#10 About 400% side crop. Not much CA.
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#12 Can it do birds? Yes.
#13 crop.
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#15 crop
#16 Upgrade
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 868
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Looks very good indeed. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3132 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Great little lens. Started the same thread a week ago
http://forum.mflenses.com/sigma-180mm-f-5-6-apo-t84984.html |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1221
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
very nice shots, just as the AF version of caspert (if i remember correctly yours is af, right?)
i wonder how big are these comparing to Minolta apo 200mm? |
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backsidewalkaround
Joined: 22 Jan 2018 Posts: 94 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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backsidewalkaround wrote:
Congrats. It really is a great value lens. It's sharp at any distance (albeit not easy to set perfect focus) from f/5.6. It's very light and compact (lighter than the Voigtländer 4/180 APO, a bit longer, though). It's 1:2 Macro lens with very nice bokeh. I really like to take it on hikes in the mountains.
It's lacking a bit of contrast, but that's usually not a problem in post.
If you're interested I can look for a couple of pictures tomorow.
Regards, Rolf _________________ My Outlet
My Altglas(s)-Blog |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1616 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Oh I missed that post somehow.
Mine isn't sticky either, is it the same material/build quality?
Nor was it expensive! |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1616 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
backsidewalkaround wrote: |
Congrats. It really is a great value lens. It's sharp at any distance (albeit not easy to set perfect focus) from f/5.6. It's very light and compact (lighter than the Voigtländer 4/180 APO, a bit longer, though). It's 1:2 Macro lens with very nice bokeh. I really like to take it on hikes in the mountains.
It's lacking a bit of contrast, but that's usually not a problem in post.
If you're interested I can look for a couple of pictures tomorow.
Regards, Rolf |
Please do show some shots!
Yes I agree the short throw made it a bit hard do nail focus. |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1616 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
Looks very good indeed. |
Thanks!
kiddo wrote: |
very nice shots, just as the AF version of caspert (if i remember correctly yours is af, right?)
i wonder how big are these comparing to Minolta apo 200mm? |
The Minolta looks like a beast in comparison! |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1405 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:08 am Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
Optically reasonable from the looks of it.
But judging by how close together the f/22 hyperfocal distance markers are, I would find this lens utterly impossible to focus accurately at f/5.6.
On a macro lens that goes down to 1:2 magnification you really want a near full (340 degrees or so) rotation of the focus grip to cover the full focus throw.
The other noticeable issue are the screen-printed markings rubbing off, especially on SIGMA's notorious degrading soft-touch "ZEN" finish.
(Those are gripes I have with many third party lenses, the totally impractical focus sensitivity and the lack of engraved markings). _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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backsidewalkaround
Joined: 22 Jan 2018 Posts: 94 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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backsidewalkaround wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
Please do show some shots!
Yes I agree the short throw made it a bit hard do nail focus. |
All images have been processed to my liking. The landscape image is a multi shot panorama, that I scaled down and sharpened to 6000px. The one with the chamoise is badly focussed (if you look closely) and has been denoised with the new LR engine.
Please view large (somehow the images that are transformed for the thread aren't showing the actual performance).
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My Altglas(s)-Blog
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3132 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
Oh I missed that post somehow.
Mine isn't sticky either, is it the same material/build quality?
Nor was it expensive! |
Yours has been cleaned already. |
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Ouwesok
Joined: 01 Jul 2014 Posts: 54 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Sigma APO Macro 180mm 1:5.6 |
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Ouwesok wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
Here is a strange lens that I've never seen before.
So I got it to do some testing.
It's equipped with the excellent Minolta mount. One of my favorites.
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This is my example that i have for some years now.
It was introduced somewhere in de early 90's together with a 2.8/180mm that was extremely heavy en gigantic in size.
At the time it was introduced my want-have-list contained something like 'one of those two'. The first time i saw one was on a camera fair where i picked the 5.6 manual version.
To my surprise the next i saw in reality was the 2.8 on the same fair, only 30 meters away from the 5.6 so i had them both on the same day.
The 2.8 is very bulky but a good performer. Mine suffered from the Sigma Zen-disease and the focussing ring got stuck. Lens is 'waiting on possible repair'.
The 5.6 is a pleasure to use in combination with an EVF, quite easy to focus and a good performer (i also have the AF 3.5/180mm HSM that is much faster but a real monster to lug around)
To get things complete i also found the AF-version 5.6/180mm in Japan, a very nice example that looks and feels like new.
The 180mm is very useful for shy insects. The small size of the 5.6 makes it less detectable for insects than the faster 180's that are much larger in size.
Examples
Argiope bruennichi by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Ischnura elegans by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Macroglossum stellatarum by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Aeshna mixta by Ouwesok, on Flickr
I use both the AF and MF-version of this one. As soon as the insects appear in the fields they are my most used lenses. _________________ Formerly known as toeteraar |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3132 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:17 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
I think the results look great, very clean and with very good bokeh. |
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blotafton
Joined: 08 Aug 2013 Posts: 1616 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:16 am Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Nice shots guys!
I'm grateful that someone has already polished my example, I hate sticky lenses and cameras |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1405 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
blotafton wrote: |
Nice shots guys!
I'm grateful that someone has already polished my example, I hate sticky lenses and cameras |
It beggars belief that those soft-touch elastomer coatings haven't been banned yet. The mountain of waste generated by people throwing away soft-touch-turned-sticky tat & electronic gadgets... _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3930 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote: |
blotafton wrote: |
Nice shots guys!
I'm grateful that someone has already polished my example, I hate sticky lenses and cameras |
It beggars belief that those soft-touch elastomer coatings haven't been banned yet. The mountain of waste generated by people throwing away soft-touch-turned-sticky tat & electronic gadgets... |
Not only that, but - more cumbersome - the probable use of lots of plasticizer to get the recommended "softness" ... nasty stuff indeed.
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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BrianSVP
Joined: 09 Jun 2023 Posts: 335 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:12 am Post subject: Re: Sigma APO Macro 180mm 1:5.6 |
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BrianSVP wrote:
Really beautiful pics here! Love the hummingbird moth.
Ouwesok wrote: |
blotafton wrote: |
Here is a strange lens that I've never seen before.
So I got it to do some testing.
It's equipped with the excellent Minolta mount. One of my favorites.
#1
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This is my example that i have for some years now.
It was introduced somewhere in de early 90's together with a 2.8/180mm that was extremely heavy en gigantic in size.
At the time it was introduced my want-have-list contained something like 'one of those two'. The first time i saw one was on a camera fair where i picked the 5.6 manual version.
To my surprise the next i saw in reality was the 2.8 on the same fair, only 30 meters away from the 5.6 so i had them both on the same day.
The 2.8 is very bulky but a good performer. Mine suffered from the Sigma Zen-disease and the focussing ring got stuck. Lens is 'waiting on possible repair'.
The 5.6 is a pleasure to use in combination with an EVF, quite easy to focus and a good performer (i also have the AF 3.5/180mm HSM that is much faster but a real monster to lug around)
To get things complete i also found the AF-version 5.6/180mm in Japan, a very nice example that looks and feels like new.
The 180mm is very useful for shy insects. The small size of the 5.6 makes it less detectable for insects than the faster 180's that are much larger in size.
Examples
Argiope bruennichi by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Ischnura elegans by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Macroglossum stellatarum by Ouwesok, on Flickr
Aeshna mixta by Ouwesok, on Flickr
I use both the AF and MF-version of this one. As soon as the insects appear in the fields they are my most used lenses. |
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