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Attila
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 Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: Komura M42 lenses |
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Attila wrote:
I had in the past a Komura 200mm f4.5 lens, it was pretty average in sharpness. I not seen many copy ... Today I bought a 135mm f3.5 Komura lens. This is the first one what I seen. Any experience ?
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vilva
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: Re: Komura M42 lenses |
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vilva wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| I had in the past a Komura 200mm f4.5 lens, it was pretty average in sharpness. I not seen many copy ... Today I bought a 135mm f3.5 Komura lens. This is the first one what I seen. Any experience ? |
Not of that FL. I've got a 2.5/105 which is reasonably good, see http://galactinus.net/vilva/retro/eos350d_komura.html and http://galactinus.net/vilva/retro/eos350d_komura_bokeh.html . Komura M42 lenses aren't very common these days, and it is rather difficult to find any information about them or user experiences. According to the Vade-Mecum, the 3.5/135 is hard coated, 5 elements in 4 groups, and well built with a brass helix.
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
So I can expect reasonable good too, because as usual 135mm is pretty good from every maker. Thank you!
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
I have an m42 komura zoom that I've found a pretty decent performer and very well put together. But I couldn't find any information about it and couldn't sell it either - not even for 99p.  |
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This is the sad reality with many "noname" lenses even if they are decent performer they don't have value on the market. I guess this is normal market behavior because so many crap going in noname category
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kievuser
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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kievuser wrote:
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| This is the sad reality with many "noname" lenses even if they are decent performer they don't have value on the market. I guess this is normal market behavior because so many crap going in noname category |
I have a Komura ZOOM 925 90-250/4.5. It is quite sharp at the shorter end. It looks like a well made lens mechanically. I can't find much information about it. |
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Komura zooms and medium format lenses are more common than M42 primes I saw a few. Please publish some nice samples and a photo from lens itself.
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stevence
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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stevence wrote:
I once had a M42 Komura 85/1.4, a much sought after lens, but a bad lens nevertheless by today's standards. I sold it in the end. |
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you so much for this info I would hunting down this lens. Now it is changed 
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Komura 135mm f3.5 is here, solidly built nice looking lens. I except average or crap result Let we see how perform on a sunny day
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I have a Komura 200/4.5 now, and I am very happy with it.
I may be much too easy to please on the matter of sharpness, but the thing has been "lucky" for me, which is a non-scientific but very important quality !
I mounted it on a bellows for use on my K100D, as mine is actually a Leica/Canon mount.
These from the Komura -
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Seems color rendering perfect! Also true you selected a very nice subject and in small size difficult to judge on a lens.
This is my former copy I wasn't like at all.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/othermaker/komura_200mm_f4_001/
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Finally lens is here need to cleaning because it has starter fungus inside.
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luisalegria wrote:
I like it ! |
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Well built pre-set lens.
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luisalegria wrote:
Solid and capable - looking thing. They don't make them that way anymore. |
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kievuser
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kievuser wrote:
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| Well built pre-set lens. |
It looks very much like a Russian Tair-11.  |
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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With one difference your Tair-11 a lot more better lens 
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piticu
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piticu wrote:
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| Finally lens is here need to cleaning because it has starter fungus inside. |
Did you managed to get it opened Atilla? I'm asking because i got the same lens with its beautifull 16 blades diaphragm full of oil.
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aoleg
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aoleg wrote:
Don't bother. Out of several pre-set lenses with that many blades that I have, two have oil on the blades. That does not affect anything. You would only want the oil removed if it were an automatic lens.
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piticu
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piticu wrote:
Preset or automatic, oily blades could stick. Plus that i don't like how they look. I'll open it even if that mean i'll break it for good
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kuuan wrote:
now I am confused:..is a Komura lens from the same maker as a Kominar / and a Komine?
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PBFACTS wrote:
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| now I am confused:..is a Komura lens from the same maker as a Kominar / and a Komine? |
Not At all
Komura lenses were made by sankyo koki (the manufacturer of Horseman 4x5 /8x10 cameras)
Komine/Kominar lenses were made by Nittoh Co (still active)
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piticu
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
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| Komura lenses were made by sankyo koki (the manufacturer of Horseman 4x5 /8x10 cameras) |
Could you please confirm the spelling „Koki“? Until now I saw only Kohki or Kohkei. As per Vadamecum, the company changed it's name in '75 as „Komura Lens Manufacturing Ltd.“.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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| Preset or automatic, oily blades could stick. Plus that i don't like how they look. I'll open it even if that mean i'll break it for good |
No problem with oil at all don't make it stuck and if make it you can brake after ...
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