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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: News from Nikon Reply with quote
New Nikon:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012911nikond601st.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012910nikond60.asp
Not big changes.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks like it's a rival to the new Canon 450D - It'll be interesting to see further details and sample shots.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Richard_D wrote:
Looks like it's a rival to the new Canon 450D - It'll be interesting to see further details and sample shots.


I think thats will be a hard job. No support again for Nikon primes (AF) - not important for us but for competing with 450D, yes, no functional exposure meter with older Nikon lenses (like D200...), no vertical grip, no bigger viewfinder. Its like the upgrade from K100D to K100D Super made by Pentax.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
montecarlo wrote:
Richard_D wrote:
Looks like it's a rival to the new Canon 450D - It'll be interesting to see further details and sample shots.


I think thats will be a hard job. No support again for Nikon primes (AF) - not important for us but for competing with 450D, yes, no functional exposure meter with older Nikon lenses (like D200...), no vertical grip, no bigger viewfinder. Its like the upgrade from K100D to K100D Super made by Pentax.


I would guess 95% of prospective buyers won't look at lens compatability, and 99% won't care about manual Nikkors. Grip and viewfinder might make or break a few decisions, but at this level it will be number of pixels and image quality that are going to be the key - oh and probably most importantly price Wink


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, but regarding this, it will have a 10Mpx CCD sensor (the same I think in the K200D, K10D, D80, D200) vs. Canon's 12Mpx CMOS sensor.
We'll see D90 (?) what will bring with it.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes I suspect the strategy is price D60 and D90 either side of 450D. It will be interesting to see what the D90 brings.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Richard_D wrote:
Looks like it's a rival to the new Canon 450D - It'll be interesting to see further details and sample shots.


The Canon 450D looks like a rival to the D300, with many of the features at a lot lower price. The D60 is careful to not rival the D300, and is a lightly warmed over D40X with a VR kit lens. It does add a digital rangefinder for manual lenses, though.

Seems the D60 is mainly aimed at reducing customer confusion between the D40 and D40X, by giving the D40X a new number and a small number of differentiating features Confused

Overall disappointing, and makes the new Canon look pretty attractive.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Neither Nikon nor Canon is particularly smart about how they position each of the cameras in their ranges in terms of capabilities. The problem they have is that under the digital regime they actually downgrade features with no cost benefits in the manufacturing/production side in order to differentiate. Then they hope buyers will pay extra for such mechanical things as body build. Thus when the D200 first came out it was a "dumbed down" version of the D2x, quite capable of most of the things the "pro" version could do, but deliberately stripped. I dont know if any of them is going to rationalize their line ups in a way that makes marketing sense.


patrickh


PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: D3x Reply with quote
New flagship from Nikon ???

http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/15/24-4-megapixel-nikon-d3x-dslr-in-the-works/

http://zebase.com/zubek2005/d3bin/

( http://forum.mflenses.com/new-sony-dslr-t4547.html#50351 )


PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A pro cam with a higher mpixel count is to be expected (although Nikon were saying they're dropping the x extensions) it will be interesting to see if they can keep noise levels down with a larger sensor. The IQ of the D3 has already lured the odd pro from Canon and they'd be fools to release a camera that couldn't beat Canon's high mpixel offerings in IQ.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Richard_D wrote:
A pro cam with a higher mpixel count is to be expected (although Nikon were saying they're dropping the x extensions) it will be interesting to see if they can keep noise levels down with a larger sensor. The IQ of the D3 has already lured the odd pro from Canon and they'd be fools to release a camera that couldn't beat Canon's high mpixel offerings in IQ.


Clearly they will try to keep noise down; but equally clearly, the 12MP full frame sensor in the D3 will have much lower noise than the 24 mp sensor in the D3X.

If you are shooting fashion models or products under studio lights, or well lit landscapes, then reach for the D3x. if you are shooting rock concerts under low light, reach for the D3. In other words these are complementary cameras; one does not replace the other.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nikon is preparing a surprise ?
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/05/19/july-1st.aspx
We shall see if it is true on july the first Very Happy


PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
montecarlo wrote:
Nikon is preparing a surprise ?


A new boring autofocus lens. Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
montecarlo wrote:
Nikon is preparing a surprise ?


A new boring autofocus lens. Laughing


AF-S ED-IF VR N 800mm f/4


PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ChrisLilley wrote:
Orio wrote:
montecarlo wrote:
Nikon is preparing a surprise ?


A new boring autofocus lens. Laughing


AF-S ED-IF VR N 800mm f/4


If it came in for under £400 I'd take one Wink That would be a dream bird lens.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Richard_D wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote:

AF-S ED-IF VR N 800mm f/4

If it came in for under £400 I'd take one Wink That would be a dream bird lens.


I think you mistyped £4000. But thats ok, I mistyped f/8 Twisted Evil


PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: D700 ? Reply with quote
Nikon D700 ? - the competitor of the not yet launched Canon EOD 5D mark II ?
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/657828/1
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/06/17/nikon-d700.aspx


PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: D700 ? Reply with quote
montecarlo wrote:
Nikon D700 ? - the competitor of the not yet launched Canon EOD 5D mark II ?
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/657828/1
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/06/17/nikon-d700.aspx


Various model numbers (D30?) have been suggested for something that sits between a D300 and a D3. There have also been various rumours as to whether 'between' meant it was fullframe or not.

Nikons own 1.10 D3 firmware update leaked that there would be a D3 with 24.4 MPx in the near future (but not what the model would be called).

And a replacement for the ageing D80 (likely to take it to the same 12MPx sensor as used in the D300, hopefully with liveview, but some missing features to ensure the D300 still sells - I guess lower burst speed, no 14bit option, and lower build quality/no weathersealing) - perhaps called the D90. If so, the one between the D3 and D300 is less likely to be called the D30. D700 makes more sense.

Given that Nikon has stated that profit margin is more important to them than absolute sales volume, I think the D80-replacement is least likely and the other two are more likely. Nikon seem to be focusing on the high end, while the consumer bracket is left with light warmups of existing designs (D40x -> D60), uninspiring variable aperture zooms (16-85) or the lens offerings of third parties (Sigma, Tokina, Tamron).


PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: D700 ? Reply with quote
ChrisLilley wrote:


Given that Nikon has stated that profit margin is more important to them than absolute sales volume, I think the D80-replacement is least likely and the other two are more likely. Nikon seem to be focusing on the high end, while the consumer bracket is left with light warmups of existing designs (D40x -> D60), uninspiring variable aperture zooms (16-85) or the lens offerings of third parties (Sigma, Tokina, Tamron).


There strategy seems to be working. The D3 has already started to get pro's make the move over, and in the UK atleast, Nikon are leading the entry level sales, with Sony second and Canon third. Of course the newly announced entry level Canon may shake that up a bit!

If I was Nikon I'd be concentating hard on something to spoil the 5DII's arrival...


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ChrisLilley wrote:


What's up with these ? I don't see clearly what kind of lenses are these (except that two of them are primes and of professional grade ).
Thanks.


PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The middle one is certainly either a fisheye or an "ultrasuperwide" (such as 10mm).

Second thought: probably not a fisheye as the hood would be in the way.


PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Could be a new release of this one ?
http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/46-nikon--nikkor-aps-c/208-nikkor-af-14mm-f28-d-ed-review--test-report (with AF-S - SWM)


PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A more closer look (but still a speculation):
http://www.photographybay.com/2008/06/18/nikon-d700/
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d700.htm


PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
These are (supposedly) full frame AF-S 30mm f/1.2 and AF-S 24mm f/2 plus some DX 10-24 zoom. They could equally well be fakes of course.
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