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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:36 am Post subject: Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 vs Nikkor Ai 85/2 |
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caspert79 wrote:
I promised before that I would do a test between the Tokina AT-X 90mm f/2.5 macro and the Nikkor Ai 85mm f/2.
First, the Nikkor with aperture fully opened:
Pleasing bokeh and good colours IMO, some softness is there, as probably intended at this aperture.
Overall comparison at f/2.8 & f/2.5:
Aperture of the Tokina is wide open here, and therefore smoother. I don't see dramatic differences other than that.
Overall comparison at f/4:
Tokina bokeh a bit softer, but no dramatic differences. No dull image from the Nikkor IMO as often claimed.
Then, at f/5.6:
Same story, I like the Tokina bokeh a bit more. Bot other than that......
Let's take a look at the 100% crops:
Nikkor shows some softness wide open, but at similar apertures the Nikkor and Tokina are about equaly sharp and contrasty. |
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Ultrapix
Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Posts: 577 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Ultrapix wrote:
I have to admit that I would have bet on the Tokina being more pleasant, but this comparison proves the exact opposite, the Nikkor has more pop and brilliance to my eyes. |
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Sciolist
Joined: 29 Mar 2017 Posts: 1445 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Sciolist wrote:
Thanks for doing this set, caspert . |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Sciolist wrote: |
Thanks for doing this set, caspert . |
You're welcome! |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11062 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
The flat field lens is specialized for some uses however. ) Quality in comparison speaks for how good is the Nikkor.
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 775 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
Great comparison. Both have excellent subject separation and pop.
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Though I'd share some close focus shots made with the Tokina today:
@f/2.5
@f/11
aperture unknown:
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Tokina has much nicer bokeh IMHO, Nikor those sharp octagons - not my thing
Otherwise both nice sharp andd high contrast, I agree _________________ Klaus - Admin
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Tokina has much nicer bokeh IMHO, Nikor those sharp octagons - not my thing
Otherwise both nice sharp andd high contrast, I agree |
Agree, not a strong point of many Nikkors. |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 895
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Both lenses look nice to my eyes. Interesting comparison. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
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