Konica 85/1,8 hexanon AR EE

[IAZA]

I just got this lens.not cheap. I haven't test it.
I saw different version of 85/1,8 konica, mine has 55 filter ring. Any info of production?
tomorrow will test this lens.
@ Attila...you the one who responsible of this Konicamania

[Attila]

You will love it , most Konica lenses has 55mm filter thread. Congrats! It was wise descision to buy it, this lens never was inexpensive and I believe it's price will be higher and higher due we can use them on all mirror lens camera.

[rbelyell]

great lens well worth what you paid when you compare it to price of competitors that yield it's kind of IQ.

[Lightshow]

Can't wait to see pics, congrats, it's next on my Hex list.

[IAZA]

my opinion at first day
Not as sharp as Takumar 85/1,9 at wideopen but I can see detail
very thin DOF, even at 2,8
Shows some CA
Ok, here's first shot
All wideopen except 2nd & crop



f2,8

crop from above





iya by iaza, on Flickr


lamp by iaza, on Flickr

[ForenSeil]

Wide open it seems to be not the best performer. It looks like it has exactly same "unsharpness-character" as the Konica 40mm F1.8 wide open But it's a very very nice lens anyway

[rbelyell]

wow, no offense to anyone intended, but i'm not quite sure what folks lens performance expectations are or how realistic they may be. in my experience no lens is at optimum sharpness wide open, and not many photographers i know shoot wide open to achieve sharpness. for portraits, i guess i always thought to shoot wide open BECAUSE it will yield a slightly softer focus. in my experience the sharpness, or lack thereof, of a lens is judged about 2 stops down from open. by 2.8 this lens equals the planar 85/1.4, imho.

also, any 85mm lens ive ever seen has an extremely narrow wide open DOF--usually less than 1foot. if anyone knows an 85 with a wide DOF wide open let me know!

[Attila]

[rbelyell]

also focus and shutter speeds come into play. at 85mm, or 130mm on apsc or 170mm on m4/3, must have at least shutter speed of 1/85, 1/125 or 1/180 respectively to not get camera shake interfere with clarity. whe subjects are moving, like these, you need even faster SS's. and with the narrow DOF of 85mm wide open, absolute accuracy in focus is imperative--6 inches off will ruin focus and give 'appearance' of lack of sharpness.

if you really want to test against your pentax, put camera on tripod, ensure critical focus, shoot same subject in same light at same settings. would be a good experiment, no?

[Ivan Lee]

[Ivan Lee]

[IAZA]

rbelyell:

[Attila]

To make no PP just some bad than make over PP, we have different cameras from cheap ones to high ends. PP makes camera independent samples. Just one example Tamron SP 17 did look crap on Olympus E-1 and Panasonic G1 and looks to very good on NEX.
If I make no PP and publish result straight from camera who don't know this lens he think , this lens is crap ...
Camera settings also very vary, Olympus E-1 with default setting made soft . crap images. had to increase saturation , sharpness in camera body. So makes no PP not better at all than make proper PP and show best from lens... a crap lens with best PP still crap, but PP can help to a lens to show best IQ what lens able to produce.

[IAZA]

I agree for that Attila I'm too lazy to edit
here's other sample taken just few minutes ago
wideopen


crop from above

the lens

[nixland]

Thanks for sharing IAZA.

This lens was one of my dream lens once, before I knew that Konica lens is not adaptable to Canon FF without saving mirror (I am still stay with FF and not have plan to buy a mirrorless cam )

By the way, is it still adaptable to APSC camera?

How many version does this 85/1.8 have?

[IAZA]

[Attila]

A used NEXT body cost not high better idea to buy one instead of ruin lens with conversion. I know three version of this lens, EE this les, AE latest one and earliest Konishiroku made for Konica F (I never see any perhaps it is not exists)

[nixland]

@IAZA & Attila: thanks for the info.

The bokeh highlight on the first photo above looks like Pancolar bokeh, which has pronounced ring.

[IAZA]

I think I'm going to like this lens. color is amazing, true color. I rare using such lens with capability to produce good color with standard setting on cam.
Green is real green.
look here, with other lenses, usually I must change setting to vivid mode to get real green
with this lens, vivid mode just add more contrast (it become more dark, I should increase speed of other setting ), but green color actually remain same.
took this few minutes ago;
landscape mode

vivid mode

portrait mode


now bokeh sample from other day

[Kathmandu]

@nixland

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thaidphoto.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D134102&act=url

The above Thai link seems to have a conversion of the AR 50mm f1.4. I found this as I have a AR 57mm f1.4 that I'd like to convert and try.
So it seems it can be done, the conversion is a destructive one -seems like it involves shaving/grinding- to achieve infinity.

[iangreenhalgh1]

Eek, don't convert such a great lens, there are lots of other 1.4s you could use instead!

[Kathmandu]

[nixland]

Don't worry, I already made up my mind not to get Hexanon lens on my Canon DSLR ... only Rokkor and Canon FD lens ..

Hope next year or in the future Canon (or Nikon or any brand) will make an affordable mirrorless full-frame camera ......
Cause I am still hooked with FF format and still adamant to buy non-FF mirrorless ... haha

[IAZA]

I got a model just now, my neighbor

crop 100%
I must admit it sharp enough for me, different with takumar is little, this lens is harder to get focus 'coz it has thinner dof, 0,1 different


my friend tried to modified this Konica hexanon 57/1,2 to EOS, but it seem no chance to achive infinty

[Attila]