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adonuff
Joined: 24 Nov 2017 Posts: 64
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:28 am Post subject: Angenieux R61 |
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adonuff wrote:
Hi again
Thanks to everyone that answered my questions about Topcor lenses. As mentioned previously I was given a box full of old lenses that were destined for the rubbish, The box had 4 Topcor lenses & 2 Angenieux lenses.
I have tried them all out on my A6000, they all do a great job the Angenieux lenses are especially sharp with beautiful colors.
They are: 135 3.5 type Y2 which I have managed to find a little bit of info & a 24 3.5 Retrofocus type R61.
The R61 must be fairly uncommon I cant seem to find much info at all, it is missing the bit that fits over the shutter button on the camera & the silver finish has a few deep scuff marks. they are both Exata mounts.
I am hoping to find out more about both especially the R61.
Thanks in advance Andrew[/b] |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10958 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Show a photo of it please! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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adonuff
Joined: 24 Nov 2017 Posts: 64
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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adonuff wrote:
Hope this worked? |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Astonishing anyone anywhere would consider discarding this lens as rubbish. Here is one for sale in NZ:
http://retinarescue.com/angenieux24.html |
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adonuff
Joined: 24 Nov 2017 Posts: 64
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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adonuff wrote:
There must be lots of old lenses that end up in the bin, a real shame. This lens still works despite the missing parts & the pictures are clear & sharper than the Sony kit lenses that came with the camera.
I got lucky all of the lenses in the box are still working |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Lucky indeed. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/ |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2964 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:38 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
I'm not that familiar with angenieux but I imagine the arm was for stop down function on the exakta camera. On many older exakta lenses an arm covered the shutter button that when half pushed would give a depth of field preview. Very fortuitous find. Any chance you could upload some sample shots from the angenieux lenses? _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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adonuff
Joined: 24 Nov 2017 Posts: 64
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:59 am Post subject: |
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adonuff wrote:
jamaeolus wrote: |
I'm not that familiar with angenieux but I imagine the arm was for stop down function on the exakta camera. On many older exakta lenses an arm covered the shutter button that when half pushed would give a depth of field preview. Very fortuitous find. Any chance you could upload some sample shots from the angenieux lenses? |
You are correct about missing arm, there is another lever on the bottom of the lens that turns this on or off. In fact I can still push on what is left & it operates the aperture.
I will try & get a few pics up, still learning how this works on this site! |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:20 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
New Zealand notwithstanding, the value of an Angenieux R61 is between US$1000 and US$2000.
The genuine Angenieux lens cap alone would easily fetch US$30!!
Comparing this Angenieux lens to a kit lens is akin to comparing a Rolls Royce to a Yugo. |
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adonuff
Joined: 24 Nov 2017 Posts: 64
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:37 am Post subject: |
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adonuff wrote:
guardian wrote: |
New Zealand notwithstanding, the value of an Angenieux R61 is between US$1000 and US$2000.
The genuine Angenieux lens cap alone would easily fetch US$30!!
Comparing this Angenieux lens to a kit lens is akin to comparing a Rolls Royce to a Yugo. |
I'm new to adapted lenses but I would have to agree, I think that the box of lenses destined for the bin has doubled / tripled the value of my lens collection. Of greater importance the quality of my photo's has improved dramatically.
P.S. What's a Yongo?? |
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 2013 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:49 am Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
Adonuff, Here is a Yugo
_________________ Pierre
sovietlenses.fr
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2964 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:14 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Ahh the Yugo.... pinnacle of Yugoslavian automotive excellence. A fine motorcar but its no Trabant!
Adonuff, I also found my photography "talent" improved dramatically when I went to next level gear. Unfortunately for me I actually had to pay the going price as I didn't intercept thousands of dollars worth of photography gear headed for the dustbin....
Enjoy the gems you have found and please share photos with us. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10958 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:34 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
_________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16627 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:04 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Shouldn't Pierre Angenieux name at least written correctly,
to honor his tremedous work in optics?? _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2964 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:57 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Klaus? What are you on about? Were you trying to ask "Shouldn't Pierre Angenieux'S name at least BE written correctly,
to honor his tremeNdous work in optics??" Are you upset that I neglected the capital first letter? If so I apologize. I frequently comment using a smaller tablet with lousy ergonomics and capital letters are a bit hard. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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adonuff
Joined: 24 Nov 2017 Posts: 64
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:12 am Post subject: |
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adonuff wrote:
A couple of pictures of my favourite models, both taken with the R61. The Yungo brand has never made it to Australia, so I cannot fairly make a comment.
I think my photo's have also improved a lot since I started with the old lenses, I find myself thinking about the setting more & not depending on the camera to do all the work.
Hope the pictures turn out right. I saved them as JPEG from the original RAW & made the files smaller. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16627 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:10 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
jamaeolus wrote: |
Klaus? What are you on about? Were you trying to ask "Shouldn't Pierre Angenieux'S name at least BE written correctly,
to honor his tremeNdous work in optics??" Are you upset that I neglected the capital first letter? If so I apologize. I frequently comment using a smaller tablet with lousy ergonomics and capital letters are a bit hard. |
Sorry, I was adressing the original poster - not you!!
I corrected it, dammit, am I a secretary or what.... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:29 am Post subject: |
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dr.volkan wrote:
Very nice examples. |
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 575 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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paulhofseth wrote:
If the transmission works, here is the lens diagram.
p. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10958 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
jamaeolus wrote: |
Klaus? What are you on about? Were you trying to ask "Shouldn't Pierre Angenieux'S name at least BE written correctly,
to honor his tremeNdous work in optics??" Are you upset that I neglected the capital first letter? If so I apologize. I frequently comment using a smaller tablet with lousy ergonomics and capital letters are a bit hard. |
Sorry, I was adressing the original poster - not you!!
I corrected it, dammit, am I a secretary or what.... |
Disqualified for that! LOL! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2964 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Lovely shots of the K9 models. Also a lovely Isetta. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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adonuff
Joined: 24 Nov 2017 Posts: 64
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:48 am Post subject: |
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adonuff wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
kds315* wrote: |
jamaeolus wrote: |
Klaus? What are you on about? Were you trying to ask "Shouldn't Pierre Angenieux'S name at least BE written correctly,
to honor his tremeNdous work in optics??" Are you upset that I neglected the capital first letter? If so I apologize. I frequently comment using a smaller tablet with lousy ergonomics and capital letters are a bit hard. |
Sorry, I was adressing the original poster - not you!!
I corrected it, dammit, am I a secretary or what.... |
Disqualified for that! LOL! |
As I am the original poster, I am wondering what was wrong with my post? I certainly meant no disrespect!
Please let me know so that I can avoid future mistakes. |
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kansalliskalaCafe
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:54 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskalaCafe wrote:
BurstMox wrote: |
Adonuff, Here is a Yugo
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The story/myth behind Yugo is actually very strange.
It started early 1960's when US bought the space programme of Yugoslavia paying $10 000 000 000 for it. They bought it because US space programme was very unreliable that time.
Yugoslavian space programme did really exist, they did indeed manage to launch some sort of satellite with a living pig to the Adrian sea. But instead of receiving a great space programme the US received something slightly different. So they wanted the money back.
Here comes Yugo. Tito had the great idea to pay the money back by exporting cars.
But it all ended in tragedy. US didn't finally get the money back and CIA's revenge was to fuel national differences in Yugoslavia, which resulted to the bloody civil war.
source: a documentary/film I saw at a Finnish YLE channel
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston,_We_Have_a_Problem!_(film) |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2964 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
And here all this time I thought the Yugo was a crappy knockoff of a crappy Italian FIAT. (124 IIRC) _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1659
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Is that a lens for Alpa cameras? |
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