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Katastrofo
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Katastrofo wrote:
The seller of the Biometar has offered a straight across trade for the Zeiss
4/20, does this lens have more value than the Biometar 80/2.8? Thanks.
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hacksawbob
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hacksawbob wrote:
used lens price guide says Biomter in the £60-100 range, I would say the 4/20 is £100+ depending on condition, remember it is a fragile lens with exposed optics. I would want some money on top if I owned the flek
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Orio
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Yes if in good condition the Flek 20 is a higher value.
But check that the glasses have no scratch or marks.
A faint mark that could be OK in a tele, could be bad in a superwide.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Orio! I'll ask for detailed pics of the glass elements before I make
a decision.
Thanks, Hacksaw!
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bob955i
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bob955i wrote:
Get him to shine a torch/flashlight through it too Bill as a check for cloudiness - if it is, you'll have a fairly drastic reduction in contrast in bright light. |
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
The best F/ of the flekt are F/11 and F/16. I have a copy with so-so frontal elemnt borders and for this apertures it's ok.
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Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
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Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
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Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
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Katastrofo
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Bob and Estudleon for your advice! He's taking pics of it right now,
and I will post them here. I guess I have to ask myself if I will ever get
a 4/20 for only $88.  It is in Exakta mount, zebra finish, just like
the Biometar. |
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bob955i
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
If you can post his pix here let us see them Bill.  |
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
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| If you can post his pix here let us see them Bill. |
Will do, Bob, still waiting for them.
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naplam
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Get him to shine a torch/flashlight through it too Bill as a check for cloudiness - if it is, you'll have a fairly drastic reduction in contrast in bright light. |
Good advice. Some lens defects are only visible that way. In fact, you can even judge the amount of dust shining a torch through the lens. |
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
OK, here're the pics, and I have 100% guarantee with full refund + shipping
charges if not happy:
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Looks a never used one , this is not common on Flek most of copies are very used looking owners used them a lot because they are so excellent lenses. I wish you lot of fun with this beautiful lens.
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Orio
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Looks like a babe 
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Have to say, when I say the pics plus 100% guarantee in the email, I said
go ahead and send it on! Nothing to lose, and hopefully gain a very nice
lens!
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I am pretty sure you will love it.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks Orio and Attila, will post pics of it mounted on the Exakta 500, if
it ever arrives...
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bob955i
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
Welcome to the Flektomaniacs Club, Bill....  |
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Bob! 
(Nice avatar you have there. ) |
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
With the Flek 4/20 the seller is sending this along, comes with extension
tube set, 2/58 Biotar, WL viewfinder, recently CLA'd and new shutter
curtains:
Doesn't mean I'll get the same excellent results Luis does, but I won't
have the equipment to blame!
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