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DigiChromeEd
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 Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:00 pm Post subject: Konica Hexanon AR 135mm f2.5 v's Vivitar Series 1 135mm f2.3 |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
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Has anyone ever compared these two lenses side by side?
The Vivitar has a cult following but in reality is it really any better than other fast 135's?
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Never compared to Pentax, but S1 is my favorite of all my 135mms.
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Lightshow wrote:
I think you'll be happy with either of them.
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I can only tell you how incredible the Hexanon is, i've never used the Vivitar.
 On duty (Hex 2.5/135) by René Maly, on Flickr
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I do own the Hexanon 2.5/135mm and a few 2.0/135mm lenses. In addition I had the opportunity to test about half a dozen 1.8/135mm and 2/135mm lenses, but I don't know the Vivitar 2.3/135mm. This said, the Hexanon 2.5/135mm is a very capable lens, especially since you can get it for 50 - 100 CHF/EUR/USD, sometimes even for less. The Hexanon 2.5/135mm has nearly no lateral CAs (24MP FullFrame), it is slightly soft at f2.5 (useful for portraits). Stopped down it is very sharp over the entire field, and it feels very solid. Focus goes down to 1.2m, which can be useful for portraits as well.
That's what i can contribute - hopefully someone here will be able to answer your original question!
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Look for the Hexanon 3.2/135, it's awesome, imho much better than the 2.5 version.
Be wary of buying the Vivitar 2.3/135 unless you can test it first, the mint condition copy I had was utter junk, unusably bad, QC was obviously less than perfect.
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DigiChromeEd
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
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Never compared to Pentax, but S1 is my favorite of all my 135mms.
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Lovely shot and the bokeh is so smooth. 
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DigiChromeEd
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Wow, that is sharp. Was this taken wide open?
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I do own the Hexanon 2.5/135mm and a few 2.0/135mm lenses. In addition I had the opportunity to test about half a dozen 1.8/135mm and 2/135mm lenses, but I don't know the Vivitar 2.3/135mm. This said, the Hexanon 2.5/135mm is a very capable lens, especially since you can get it for 50 - 100 CHF/EUR/USD, sometimes even for less. The Hexanon 2.5/135mm has nearly no lateral CAs (24MP FullFrame), it is slightly soft at f2.5 (useful for portraits). Stopped down it is very sharp over the entire field, and it feels very solid. Focus goes down to 1.2m, which can be useful for portraits as well.
That's what i can contribute - hopefully someone here will be able to answer your original question!
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Thanks Stephen. I've recently been offered the Hexanon 2.5/135 boxed, cases and like new for £43 UK. Needless to say I bought it and am awaiting it's arrival.
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
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Wow, that is sharp. Was this taken wide open? |
It's a sharp lens, can't remember the f/stop but i think this was more like f/4.
As mentioned here before: the f/3.2 version is sharper!
Here's a sample of the f/3.2 wide open:
 Red pencil by René Maly, on Flickr
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Look for the Hexanon 3.2/135, it's awesome, imho much better than the 2.5 version.
Be wary of buying the Vivitar 2.3/135 unless you can test it first, the mint condition copy I had was utter junk, unusably bad, QC was obviously less than perfect. |
Thanks Ian. I already have the Hexanon 3.2/135 which is superb. I wanted the 2.5/135 for its hopefully smoother bokeh. Also, as I collect and use Konica and Minolta lenses, it is one I don't have.
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Wow, that is sharp. Was this taken wide open? |
It's a sharp lens, can't remember the f/stop but i think this was more like f/4.
As mentioned here before: the f/3.2 version is sharper!
Here's a sample of the f/3.2 wide open:
Red pencil by René Maly, on Flickr |
 
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| I already have the Hexanon 3.2/135 which is superb. I wanted the 2.5/135 for its hopefully smoother bokeh. Also, as I collect and use Konica and Minolta lenses, it is one I don't have. |
Then you know how sharp it is!  I see we have the same preference, i'm also a Konica and Minolta collector!
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| I see we have the same preference, i'm also a Konica and Minolta collector! |
I've stopped hoarding and am slowly selling all the other stuff too!
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Look for the Hexanon 3.2/135, it's awesome, imho much better than the 2.5 version.
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Using a 24MP FF camera, the Hexanon 3.2/135mm has slightly more contrast than the Hexanon AR 2.5/135mm (at equal apertures), and slightly more CAs than the 2.5/135mm. Of course the 3.2/135 can be focused to 1m, but that's not an issue when you are about to shoot portraits. The 3.2/135mm certainly is not "much better" than the 2.5 version
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
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I've stopped hoarding and am slowly selling all the other stuff too! |
 Feels good, doesn't it?
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the Hexanon 3.2/135mm has slightly more contrast than the Hexanon AR 2.5/135mm (at equal apertures) |
This i can believe, more contrast often gets interpreted as sharper/more sharpness. Anyhow: they are both very nice lenses!
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Lightshow wrote:
135/2.5, 135/3.2.... What about my 135/3.5? Too many versions out there.
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
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| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Look for the Hexanon 3.2/135, it's awesome, imho much better than the 2.5 version.
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Using a 24MP FF camera, the Hexanon 3.2/135mm has slightly more contrast than the Hexanon AR 2.5/135mm (at equal apertures), and slightly more CAs than the 2.5/135mm. Of course the 3.2/135 can be focused to 1m, but that's not an issue when you are about to shoot portraits. The 3.2/135mm certainly is not "much better" than the 2.5 version
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I liked this forum much better before we had this idiot telling us what we should think all the time....
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woodrim wrote:
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I liked this forum much better before we had this idiot telling us what we should think all the time.... |
Ironic.
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Lightshow wrote:
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I liked this forum much better before we had this idiot telling us what we should think all the time.... |
Welcome to the internet, where opinions and a$$hats are everywhere, please don't be the second.
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memetph wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| stevemark wrote: |
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Look for the Hexanon 3.2/135, it's awesome, imho much better than the 2.5 version.
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Using a 24MP FF camera, the Hexanon 3.2/135mm has slightly more contrast than the Hexanon AR 2.5/135mm (at equal apertures), and slightly more CAs than the 2.5/135mm. Of course the 3.2/135 can be focused to 1m, but that's not an issue when you are about to shoot portraits. The 3.2/135mm certainly is not "much better" than the 2.5 version
Stephan |
I liked this forum much better before we had this idiot telling us what we should think all the time.... |
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Minolfan wrote:
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| I liked this forum much better before we had this idiot telling us what we should think all the time.... |
History is interesting sometimes.
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I cannot remember me the difference.
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Excalibur wrote:
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| 135/2.5, 135/3.2.... What about my 135/3.5? Too many versions out there. |
Well on a film camera my AR (AE) 135/3.5 is a nice lens overall but it doesn't impress me compared to some of my other 135mms for resolution (of course I could have a poor copy)... in my tests with cheaper common lenses would put the Hexanon slightly better than the Meyer 135mm but not so good as the old breechlock Canon 135mm f3.5.....and would add I'm a Hexanon fanboy.
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Must agree with Ian,the forum is attracting a greater number of "wankers who know everything about nothing" 
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memetph wrote:
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| Must agree with Ian,the forum is attracting a greater number of "wankers who know everything about nothing" |
The times, they are changing . Intelligent guys like you all are rare nowadays.  |
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