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wolan
Joined: 30 Jun 2015 Posts: 576 Location: Zurich
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:39 pm Post subject: Compact and light old telephoto lens >250mm |
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wolan wrote:
Hi,
is there a decent compact and light old MF lens with a focal length between say 250mm and 300mm, which you can recommend me?
I have the Nikkor 300mm f4.5, which is a good lens, but not exactly light and compact.
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1839 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Light and compact, sounds like a small mirror lens. Tamron has a good one, the 06B, but that is 350mm. I never had one, i can only judge from others experience.
Minolta has the 250mm f/5.6, very small and light and VERY good, i have one, so i can confirm on the quality!
There are some other good short mirrors, i think they will come up here soon!
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
I have two suggestions...
1. Tamron 300mm f/5.6 CT-300
Decent optical performance, compact and quite light, due to fixed mounts, not Adaptall. BBAR multi-coating, built-in hood. The lightest 300 I have.
2. Vivitar 70-150mm f/3.8 zoom, w/ 2x matched multiplier.
Cheap, compact since it's 2-piece, very good optical performance. It's not exactly light though.
But you will get 140-300mm zoom with a good image. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7786 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
This series of Chinon with the unusual, and deeply unfashionable, tapered design is actually very good, there's a 300 / 5.6 and 200 / 3.5. Both are light, multi coated, well built and well above average. I sold my 200 and regret it.
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Raxar
Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 223
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Raxar wrote:
http://forum.mflenses.com/yashica-300mm-f5-6-mlc-t5538.html
not very compact but it is light weight and has decent picture quality. pretty cheap too. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Tamron made Soligor 250mm f/4.5 is really nice and my favorite in this focal lenght
http://manuellfokus.no/soligor-250mm-f4-5/ _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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John Shriver
Joined: 24 Dec 2009 Posts: 198
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:55 am Post subject: |
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John Shriver wrote:
Tamron SP 300mm f/5.6 Adaptall-2 (Model 54B). Light (610 grams), compact (58mm filters), focuses insanely close (1.4 meters) while remaining very sharp. The fixed rear element is a compensator for close focusing, so it's really a macro lens as well. |
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:41 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
Can't add much to the wisdom: Yes, a 300 mm lens will always be bulky, unless mirror. Thus, mirror.
But you could perhaps try Enna plastic-y, I think they made a 240 mm or so. Whether it is optically good enough... another question.
There are some pumper zooms 60-300 or Soligor/whatever 100-300 but these soften above ~220 mm. The 100-300 needs a lot of light and f8, but is thin and brittle. The 60-300 is better but quite large (though not very heavy). |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1312 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
+1 for the adaptalls. CT300 is the lightest but the SP 54B is better, esp at f5.6, albeit typically twice the price or more. Neither has a tripod mount but tamron made one at the time see here.
Some of the vintage t-mount preset 300's are really quite sharp but the adaptalls are way ahead in terms of coatings, CFD and general design.
The 350mm 06B is very good but sought after and typically ~ 10x the price of the CT300! The SP 23A 60-300mm is pretty much as sharp as the 54B and has a remarkably strong macro mode 1:1.55x mag (!) as well as all round quality. It is however 50% heavier and it doesn't have a tripod mount. A cheap 66mm ID chinese one can be modded to fit (~63mm ID needed) in front of the aperture ring, which only blocks the 60-100mm end of the focal range.
If you are using a mirrorless camera then an excellent alternative is the canon CFD mount 300mm f5.6. Similar in price typically and at least equal optically if not better than the CT300.
More info:
http://www.adaptall-2.org/
http://www.tremyfoel.co.uk/photography/Adaptall/TamronAdaptallInfo.html
The Chinon is just a rebadged fixed mount (M42) adaptall CT300.
I've been looking for the tamron made 250mm f4.5 Nordentro mentions to complement the 350mm and 400mm of the same era I have, but I haven't seen a single one! _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1312 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
By happenstance i now have a T-xxxx 250mm f4.5 _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Txxxx Soligor(or Taisei/Tamron branded) T-mount 250/4.5 Tamrons are probably the lightest available for this requirement, but certainly not the shortest. Extremely simple lens. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Or for that matter the Soligor/Taisei 300/5.6 or 350/5.6 T-mount Tamrons.
All very light. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
buerokratiehasser wrote: |
But you could perhaps try Enna plastic-y, I think they made a 240 mm or so. Whether it is optically good enough... another question. |
I have that Enna 240mm as Corfield and it is indeed very small, but not the best performer
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