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cgustav
Joined: 01 Jun 2014 Posts: 270 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:13 pm Post subject: Smallest, cheap, telephoto? |
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cgustav wrote:
Hi there,
I'm going to travel soon and I realized I might need a telephoto.
Considered is not my main lens of choice, and I'll be use it sparsely, I'd be fine with a cheap, acceptable lens.
Probably what matters most is how small the lens is, as I can't take too much weight with me.
I'm going to be use this on the A6000.
Is there a good, small 200mm out there? (I guess 300mm is asking too much?) _________________ Fuji X-T10 |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
Olympus OM 200mm/5 _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Topcon RE Auto Topcor 5.6/200, Pentax Takumar 5.6/200, those are about the smallest. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2970 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
I agree Ian, either of those. Both good, both small and both cheap. 40 to 50 USD. My take is that the Takumar is more likely to be a good user as Topcon tend to have mechanical issues, though optically they may have a very slight edge. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1318 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
tokina SD 70-210mm. Only smaller 70-210mm (that I know of) is the tamron adaptall 58A but I think the tokina is better and more convenient - no need to get a mount.
There are also similar tokina 80-200mm esp this one which reviews much better (but the discrepancy in ratings I am inclined to be sceptical about they are pretty similar lenses).
The tokinas can be found in a variety of mounts, examples in obsolete ones like MD, OM , CFD can be picked up for peanuts. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I have the Tokina SD 70-200
I agree its pretty good.
Maybe not quite up to the Takumar mentioned, which I had some years ago, but its an academic question for the most part.
The Tokina is a very practical lens, if you like zooms. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Roka
Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 133 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Roka wrote:
Slightly larger and heavier (70 grams) than the Takumar 200mm f/5.6 is the Canon nFD 200mm f/4. I have this lens and find it quite comfortable on my a6000. The advantage is a faster lens. If you're going to consider it make sure it's the new FD (nFD) f/4 as there were many versions of this lens of which this is, by far, the lightest. There are 2 currently on that auction site for $45 and $65.
BTW, here's a recent photo I took with that lens on my a6000. I liked it so much I made it my avatar
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Fujifilm X-T20
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Vivitar 55mm f/2.8 Macro (1:1)
Canon FD 200mm f/4
Canon FD 300mm f/5.6
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:28 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
+1 on Roka's recommendation.
Canon's nFD 200mm f/4 is remarkably small for a 200 f4. The image quality is first class. If it's a telephoto prime, then this one is it. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
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ckshene
Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Posts: 11 Location: Houghton, MI
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:04 am Post subject: |
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ckshene wrote:
The Nikon AIS 200mm f/4 is another excellent choice. The AI version is a little buckier.
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cgustav
Joined: 01 Jun 2014 Posts: 270 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:04 am Post subject: |
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cgustav wrote:
Thank you all!
I was expecting ideas and it seems there are several options indeed, good budget, good lenses
I was checking on eBay and then I realized something very simple: as usual, most copies are from Japan and guess what? My trip is to Japan!
So, at this point I could just stop by some local shops in Tokyo and buy something over there.
I guess there must be plenty of choices.
Did you guys have had any experience buying used gears in Japan?
P.S. Nice shot Roka! _________________ Fuji X-T10 |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Smallest, cheap, telephoto? |
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Rick1779 wrote:
cgustav wrote: |
Hi there,
I'm going to travel soon and I realized I might need a telephoto.
Considered is not my main lens of choice, and I'll be use it sparsely, I'd be fine with a cheap, acceptable lens.
Probably what matters most is how small the lens is, as I can't take too much weight with me.
I'm going to be use this on the A6000.
Is there a good, small 200mm out there? (I guess 300mm is asking too much?) |
the takumar 200/5.6 that I'm selling here on the market _________________ TELLTALE
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:08 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
75-200/4.5 "Small Pipe" it even has SonyA mount!
Sigma 70-210 UC is compact but it sucks, Low Contrast
Soligor 100-300/6.7(!)@200 pumper zoom, hollow, needs f8/lots of light
I'd take (my) mirror 500/8 but it isn't easy picking out the right one, or using it properly (probably better on a6000) |
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Topcon RE Auto Topcor 5.6/200, Pentax Takumar 5.6/200, those are about the smallest. |
The Topcor is indeed excellent, but the takumar is basically as good and sensibly smaller/lighter. Also, it features buttery smooth mechanics - in pure early takumar style - and a nice million blades preset aperture. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
Samples from my lenses
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
marcusBMG wrote: |
tokina SD 70-210mm. Only smaller 70-210mm (that I know of) is the tamron adaptall 58A but I think the tokina is better and more convenient - no need to get a mount.
There are also similar tokina 80-200mm esp this one which reviews much better (but the discrepancy in ratings I am inclined to be sceptical about they are pretty similar lenses).
The tokinas can be found in a variety of mounts, examples in obsolete ones like MD, OM , CFD can be picked up for peanuts. |
There are also 2 different models Tokina 3.8/75-150mm, the one having sunken front element is really cool
http://lens-club.ru/lenses/item/c_5760.html _________________ ---------------------------------
The Peculiar Apparatus Of Victorian Steampunk Photography: 100+ Genuine Steampunk Camera Designs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B92829NS |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Another vote for either the Canon FDn 4/200 or the Olympus F-Zuiko Auto-T 5/200.
Both are cheap and have excellent optics.
The Olympus is smaller physically and a few grams lighter, but they are both lightweights at around 450g.
And they both come from Japan . . . yay!
OH
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bornbad
Joined: 10 Feb 2016 Posts: 14
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:47 am Post subject: |
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bornbad wrote:
I fall in love with my Pentax M* 300/4 (A* is equal), its as small as a 300 mm could get.
Nice colours and bokeh...but it`s not cheap by no means.
Optics
Optical Formula 8 elements in 7 groups
Aperture Range f/4 ~ f/32
Number of Aperture Blades 8
Minimum Focusing Distance 4.0 m
Mechanics
Filter Diameter 77 mm
Maximum Diameter 84 mm
Length 132 mm
Weight 825 g
Accessories
Cap plastic clip-on cap, 77 mm
Fitting Hood(s) built-in hood |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4049 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
In addition to the Canon nFD 4/200 IF and the Olympus 5/200mm you might consider also the last to versions of the Minolta MD 4/200mm ("MD-II" and "MD-III"). They are 400g and 410g. Optically they are as good as the better known Canon & Nikon 4/200mm lenses, but slightly inferior to the earlier (heavier [515g]) Minolta MC-X/MD-I 4/200mm.
Here on my website you'll find some information about the different Minolta 4/200mm lenses:
http://artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektive/176-minolta-200mm-f4
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
size comparison of Oly 200mm/5 to 120 film box
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Took this about ten minutes ago at our back door.
Olympus 5/200
OH
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2970 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
[quote="Oldhand"]Took this about ten minutes ago at our back door.
Olympus 5/200
OH
That is a way cool spidey photo!
Another lens that might warrant consideration Konica 200 F4 _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Spider-Man would be proud!
That Oly f/5 is sharp! _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
My Flickr |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2970 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:26 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
[quote="Roka"]Slightly larger and heavier (70 grams) than the Takumar 200mm f/5.6 is the Canon nFD 200mm f/4. I have this lens and find it quite comfortable on my a6000. The advantage is a faster lens. If you're going to consider it make sure it's the new FD (nFD) f/4 as there were many versions of this lens of which this is, by far, the lightest. There are 2 currently on that auction site for $45 and $65.
BTW, here's a recent photo I took with that lens on my a6000. I liked it so much I made it my avatar
That is an awesome photo. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks fellas.
To give the Canon FDn 4/200 equal billing with the Olympus 5/200, here is one that I took about fifteen minutes ago in the back yard.
OH
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
Nice samples! If it wasn't for the price, I'd recommend the Minolta 250/5.6 mirror lens. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7577 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:46 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Pontus wrote: |
Nice samples! If it wasn't for the price, I'd recommend the Minolta 250/5.6 mirror lens. |
It was cheap many years ago. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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