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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:28 pm Post subject: Ermione (Elmarit-R 90 last optical version) |
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Orio wrote:
Snapped on the fly, I was very lucky to get the focus well, a second after she turned away.
Tomorrow I will put this lens for sale in the Marketplace, I have two of them and I need to cash. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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dani9batan
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 218 Location: Madrid (Spain)
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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dani9batan wrote:
Wooo! You have the best lenses! What is better, Elmarit-R 2/90 or Planar T* 1.4/85?
"I saw a cute kitty" _________________ Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Contax 167MT
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
dani9batan wrote: |
Wooo! You have the best lenses! What is better, Elmarit-R 2/90 or Planar T* 1.4/85?
"I saw a cute kitty" |
The Elmarit-R 90 has a higher resolvance; in fact, it has the highest resolvance of all the 85-90 mm lenses that I tried (including Planar 1.4/85, Summicron-R 2/90 and Apo-Lanthar 3.5/90),
except for the Planar 1.2/85 which was brought to mankind from another galaxy so it doesn't count.
But, my preferred 85mm lens remains the Planar 1.4/85, for the other characteristics of the image (blur transition mostly, and contrast), which are also important - resolvance is only a part of the image.
In any case, it can help to have both if you are really into being a portraitist. They have different uses. When in an image, you need absolute detail and life-likeness, the Elmarit-R 90 is the lens to use.
With the Elmarit is like if the object is there again in front of you.
Also, the Elmarit-R 90 is affordable compared to it's top quality - I'll sell my copy for 340 Euros.
When instead you want sensual blur, poetry, lively 3D rendition, you need to use the Planar, absolutely. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:31 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Super lens! Beautiful cat too. Wow eyes! _________________ Moderator |
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Karhallarn
Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 577
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Karhallarn wrote:
Fascinating eyes! Very beautiful! _________________ www.MoWePhoto.de
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
Orio wrote: |
dani9batan wrote: |
Wooo! You have the best lenses! What is better, Elmarit-R 2/90 or Planar T* 1.4/85?
"I saw a cute kitty" |
The Elmarit-R 90 has a higher resolvance; in fact, it has the highest resolvance of all the 85-90 mm lenses that I tried (including Planar 1.4/85, Summicron-R 2/90 and Apo-Lanthar 3.5/90),
except for the Planar 1.2/85 which was brought to mankind from another galaxy so it doesn't count.
But, my preferred 85mm lens remains the Planar 1.4/85, for the other characteristics of the image (blur transition mostly, and contrast), which are also important - resolvance is only a part of the image.
In any case, it can help to have both if you are really into being a portraitist. They have different uses. When in an image, you need absolute detail and life-likeness, the Elmarit-R 90 is the lens to use.
With the Elmarit is like if the object is there again in front of you.
Also, the Elmarit-R 90 is affordable compared to it's top quality - I'll sell my copy for 340 Euros.
When instead you want sensual blur, poetry, lively 3D rendition, you need to use the Planar, absolutely. |
can i just say that THIS is how to describe equipment! we have many many threads that become quite contentious because the question is 'why buy 'X' when less priced 'Y' is just as good?' inevitably we get one side deriding X proponents as 'extravagent' and Y proponents as lacking 'true' understanding of an undefined 'quality'. yet no one simply, accurately and without prejudice describes the differences between X and Y like this. we should bookmark this so we can use it over and over as an example until we all get it! _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
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Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
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sir_c
Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 67 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: |
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can i just say that THIS is how to describe equipment! we have many many threads that become quite contentious because the question is 'why buy 'X' when less priced 'Y' is just as good?' inevitably we get one side deriding X proponents as 'extravagent' and Y proponents as lacking 'true' understanding of an undefined 'quality'. yet no one simply, accurately and without prejudice describes the differences between X and Y like this. we should bookmark this so we can use it over and over as an example until we all get it! |
Couldn't agree more; it is always very difficult to describe the differences among equally specced lenses; I think this was one of the better attempts which are actually understandable. _________________
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Asahi Pentax (M42): - Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 24mm f/3.5, Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super-Takumar 35mm f/3.5, Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 35mm f/3.5, Super-Takumar 50mm f/1.4, SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 50mm f/4, Super-Takumar 55mm f/1.8, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, SMC Takumar 55mm f/2, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 100mm f/4, Auto-Takumar 105mm f/2.8, Super-Takumar 135mm f/3.5
Asahi Pentax (P/K): - SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/2, Takumar (bayonet) 135mm f/2.5
Carl Zeiss (C/Y): - Planar 50mm f/1.7, Planar 50mm f/1.4, Sonnar 135mm f/2.8, Planar 85mm f/1.4
Carl Zeiss Jena: - Aus Jena T 50mm f/2.8, Flektogon 35mm f/2.8, Flektogon 35mm f/2.4
Leica: - Elmarit-R 35mm f/2.8, Elmarit-R 90mm f/2.8, Elmarit-R 135mm f/2.8, Summicron-R 50mm f/2, Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4
Mamiya/Sekor: - Auto 50mm f/2, SX 55mm f/1.8, Macro Sekor 60mm f/2.8, SX 135mm f/2.8
Pentacon: - Auto 29mm f/2.8, Auto MC 50mm f/1.8, Auto 135mm f/2.8
Misc: - Meyer-Optik Görlitz Orestegor 200mm f/4, Petri Auto CC 55mm f/1.8, Soligor Tele Auto 300mm f/5.5
Russian: - Helios 44M-6 58mm f/2, Jupiter-9 85mm f/2, Tair 11A 135mm f/2.8
Tokina: - (P/K) RMC EMZ 70-210mm f/4.5
Yashica: - Auto 50mm f/2 (preset), DX 50mm f/1.7
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Orio
Clarity in pictures and words. Your command of english is to be admired.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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manufelices
Joined: 22 Oct 2015 Posts: 10
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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manufelices wrote:
And between the Elmarit and the Zeiss C/Y 85mm f2.8?? I will use it mainly for portrait |
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