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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject: MC Zenitar M2s 2/50 - Sharper than Helios 44! |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Hello,
I've bought this here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220794909535&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
In subscription only an addtional "50mm f/2 lens" was mentioned, nothing about condition or name of the lens. I was very curious about it.
Now I recieved a complete Tair 3S Fotosnaiper Set in mint condition with original case, original screwdriver, original 72mm filters, Zenit 122s Body,... and an additional MC Zenitar M2S. I never heard of this Zenitar plastic-lens before. I tried it and compared it to the Helios 44-2, 44M-7 and Helios 77M-4 and woow! it's sharper wide open in the center than all of them!
On 1,5x APSC sensor it shows some vignetting and low sharpness in the corners wide open but the center is sharp like hell. The bokeh is also very nice. I didn't used it yet for "real" pictures. But I'm very suprised.
Here are some testshots (sorry for in-cam B/W conversion), all wide open:
100% Crop, ISO 800, noise reduction on
Another advantage over the Helios lenses is that this lens has no problem with flaring. Very nice 
Why I don't hear more about this lens?
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My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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Smull
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 20
Location: Paris
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Smull wrote:
I've this lens too. i bought it because it's so tiny and light. I was also very surprised by its quality!
Unfortunately, I don't use it as it deserves because mine has "already" a problem of grease! So that focusing is so hard... |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
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Location: United Kingdom
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Yes it's a more modern, plastic lens which isn't talked about much. Mine was sharp with some pop. And VERY light 
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010
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Location: Indonesia
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:17 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I had Zenitar M 50/2, sharper than my Helios 44-3 too, funny shape 
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011
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Location: Kiel, Germany.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
I did some shots with an old Zenit ET, AGFA ATX 100 and the Zenitar M2S
Devoloped with instant Coffee, Ascorbic and Soda
A LOT was lost during digitalisation (no scanner, heavy problems with flares)
With Real Fruit Juice % Polyphenols maybe it's also possible to devolope Film with this soup 
An here is an example for it's colors (no PP, on NEX-3):
(close min. focus of about 35cm)
I like this lens very much
In some situatios it seems to show some tendencies to make a slightly swirly bokeh in the centre. Is it somehow based on the Biotar lens design?
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I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
(German language)
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ChromaticAberration
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Location: Portugal
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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ChromaticAberration wrote:
How about a two-bladed square bokeh zenitar?
It is kinda confusing! 
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RioRico
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
That is perfect for photographing ice cubes! Building blocks! Le Corbusier architecture! Spongebob Squarepants! Bulldogs!
But it can't match the Diana's NEW OPTICAL LENS 50/5.6 with its triangular aperture. Shoot the pyramids! Induce epilepsy!
My Schneider Betavaron has a 5-star iris that yet produces smooth creamy bokeh. Maybe its kilo of glass makes a difference.
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ForenSeil
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:49 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Interseting lens, but 300$ ?
You can buy 20 M2S lenses for that price and substitute the iris to put your own triangles, stars, nude girl shapes or whatever
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I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I had it, but sold it when I got the 1.7 version which is a stunning lens.
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IAZA
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Location: Indonesia
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
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| I had it, but sold it when I got the 1.7 version which is a stunning lens. |
I did same thing
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enzodm
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:40 am Post subject: |
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enzodm wrote:
I have an older 50/1.9, which I had since my second Zenit in the '90s, and has been the very start of my manual focus disease. I was ready to buy a Canon 50/1.8; I borrowed one from a friend, tested both on the same scene, and decided there was no need for it. BTW, Canon was slightly better on borders but less on center. From that... well, all the others .
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Wide: Mir 20/3.5, Kenlock 24/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Yashikor 35/2.8, Mir 37/2.8
Fifties: Voigtländer Color Ultron 50/1.8, Pentacon 50/1.8, Zenitar 50/1.9, Leica Summicron 50/2, CZJ Pancolar 50/2, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5 , Rikenon 55/1.4, Petri 55/1.8, Helios 58/2
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Industar 69 28/2.8, Fujian 35/1.7, Rokkor 50/1.4, Jupiter 50/2, Cosmicar 50/2.8, Industar-22 50/3.5, Leitz Elmar 90/4, Canon Serenar 100/4
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Misha_M
Joined: 08 Oct 2012
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Misha_M wrote:
Don't know if it's really sharper than all Helios 44's (have seen razor sharp copies...), but at least as sharp.
Although a comparison between a 50mm and a 58mm isn't 100% perfect...
The Zenitar-M 50mm f/1.7 is very sharp as well:
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Jupiter 9 85 f/2 1959
Helios 44M 58 f/2 1978
Helios 44-2 58 f/2 1977
Helios 44 (13 blades) 1959
Helios 77M4 50 f/1.8
Zenitar-M 50 f/1.7 1986
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siudym
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Location: Poland
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siudym wrote:
My copy of 50/2 M2s
F2
F4
Comparison Wide Open: M2s vs Helios MC 44M-4:
#1 Zenitar F2
#2 Helios F2
BOKEH - all wide open F2:
#1
#2
#3
#4
#5
#6
#7
#8
#9
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