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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:17 pm Post subject: New cheap chinese Opteka 85/1.8 |
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ForenSeil wrote:
It's sold by several retailers in US and first lenses also hit EU market.
It's unlike other (good) Opteka lenses not made by Samyang - it looks like it's made by an Chinese manufacturer (Mitakon?).
Reviews on Amazon etc. are very mixed, from "crap in all aspects" over "optically good but stopped working after a few days" up to "as good as Canon L series"
EU:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Opteka-Manual-Aspherical-Telephoto-Cameras/dp/B00BUSXXP0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384887994&sr=8-1&keywords=85+1.8+opteka
US:
http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-Aspherical-Telephoto-Digital-Cameras/dp/B00BUSXXP0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384888532&sr=8-1&keywords=opteka+85
Any thoughts about it?
It looks interesting to me as ~F2 is fast enough for me and it's much smaller than the Samyang 85/1.4 I already have. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
(German language)
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Zeeke
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 174 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Zeeke wrote:
There is also a(New) Mitakon 85mm f2 with roughly the same price, should have good construction sense but ungainly in focus and not so sharp at maximum aperture.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitakon-85mm-F2-Portrait-Prime-Lens-for-Pentax-K-K5-K30-K3-PK-Mount-Camera-Sil-/300999529547?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item4614f8544b&afsrc=1 _________________ Pentax Ks1
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Zeeke
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 174 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Zeeke wrote:
It is available for Canon and Nikon too and also in black.
http://stores.ebay.com/weakpotoman/Other-/_i.html?_nkw=85mm&submit=Search&_fsub=1&_sid=149860250
Found an old thread on an earlier version of the Mitacon lens
http://forum.mflenses.com/mitakon-mc-85mm-f2-made-in-china-t30160.html _________________ Pentax Ks1
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
I wonder if the F2 and the F1.8 are really the same? I don't think so.
F1.8 and F2 are quite a differenc. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
(German language)
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7555 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:45 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
They are different lenses.
The V2 thread Mitakon 85mm thread:
http://forum.mflenses.com/mitakon-85mm-f2-t61011.html _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1387 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
I wonder if the F2 and the F1.8 are really the same? I don't think so.
F1.8 and F2 are quite a different. |
No, different lenses. The 85/2 is a 6 lenses in 6 groups construction, while the 85/1.8 is actually 10 lenses in 7 groups (at least according to manufacturer's spec). Does anyone know a place to order this lens from within the EU? The price is reasonable, but the way German customs work makes me sick and not really willing to order anything from outside the EU (I guess that's what they are actually for, at least in Germany). _________________ List of lenses |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
aoleg wrote: |
ForenSeil wrote: |
I wonder if the F2 and the F1.8 are really the same? I don't think so.
F1.8 and F2 are quite a different. |
No, different lenses. The 85/2 is a 6 lenses in 6 groups construction, while the 85/1.8 is actually 10 lenses in 7 groups (at least according to manufacturer's spec). Does anyone know a place to order this lens from within the EU? The price is reasonable, but the way German customs work makes me sick and not really willing to order anything from outside the EU (I guess that's what they are actually for, at least in Germany). |
If you have a EC/credit card like Visa, Maestro, Mastercard you could order them on Amazon.co.uk (see link in my first post of this thread)
They offer an 1day-delivery to Germany btw. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7555 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
aoleg wrote: |
ForenSeil wrote: |
I wonder if the F2 and the F1.8 are really the same? I don't think so.
F1.8 and F2 are quite a different. |
No, different lenses. The 85/2 is a 6 lenses in 6 groups construction, while the 85/1.8 is actually 10 lenses in 7 groups (at least according to manufacturer's spec). Does anyone know a place to order this lens from within the EU? The price is reasonable, but the way German customs work makes me sick and not really willing to order anything from outside the EU (I guess that's what they are actually for, at least in Germany). |
I do not believe it is 10 lenses in 7 groups.... The spec I see in other source is in 6e/6g. This lens seems have fragile aperture like the Mitakon 85 V1. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1387 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
I have a hard time believing in the 10/7 construction either. The reviews are not optimistic thus far; the (unknown) manufacturer made at least two samples with faulty aperture. Normally I'd be all over a new 85mm lens, but these reports on its lack of quality stop me from ordering a sample. I did get the new Mitakon 85/2 though, and I do like that lens (thanks to Calvin who helped me obtain one from China!) _________________ List of lenses |
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CuriousOne
Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Posts: 669 Location: Home
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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CuriousOne wrote:
I'd like to buy this lens, but there are no offers for Sony Alpha mount. However, amazon has a version for Sony NEX, which is basically some other mount+nex adapter. By looking at this picture, I can say, it is a Nikon mount?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/715iIT6FVpL._SL1357_.jpg _________________ I have nothing to compensate with lens |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I think this is the same company that is making really cheap knockoffs of old Canon designs. There is a 1.8/50 and a 2/35, both are awful, even worse than the Canon originals in build quality and have quite rotten IQ too. The price is good though - 35ukp for the 1.8/50 (the Canon version is 85ukp) but you get what you pay for - flimsy plastic that will fall apart after a while. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7555 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I think this is the same company that is making really cheap knockoffs of old Canon designs. There is a 1.8/50 and a 2/35, both are awful, even worse than the Canon originals in build quality and have quite rotten IQ too. The price is good though - 35ukp for the 1.8/50 (the Canon version is 85ukp) but you get what you pay for - flimsy plastic that will fall apart after a while. |
No. The 1.8/50 and 2/35 is made by YONGNUO, the company who well known for its flashes. This 85/1.8 is make by another small company. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Thanks Calvin.
Are yongnuo actually making those lenses themselves or are they buying them from a supplier?
I was really pleased when I saw those lenses and the price. Then I looked at the IQ and was saddened.
Cheap is good.
Cheap and poor quality is not good. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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CuriousOne
Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Posts: 669 Location: Home
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:13 am Post subject: |
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CuriousOne wrote:
Considering the junk Youngnuo flashes are, I guess, lens will be the same?
But let's return to the topic, anyone tested these 85/1.8 yet? _________________ I have nothing to compensate with lens |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7555 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:28 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I think the build the electrical part and assemble the lens. The the optical elements are made from one of the optical company in China.
I have not tried the 85/1.8 due to its poor build quality. It is better go for a Samyang 85 1.4 or Mitakon 85 2. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/
The best lens is the one you have with you. |
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:18 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
CuriousOne wrote: |
Considering the junk Youngnuo flashes are, I guess, lens will be the same?
But let's return to the topic, anyone tested these 85/1.8 yet? |
Have you checked the examples on flickr yet?
http://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Opteka%2085mm%201.8
Some quite impressive pictures from this lens there.
If you consider the price (I've seen offers from $ 99 on *bay) it's not bad at all. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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CuriousOne
Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Posts: 669 Location: Home
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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CuriousOne wrote:
They are downsized. I'd like to see full size, center crop, edge crop, etc. if possible _________________ I have nothing to compensate with lens |
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