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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: First film photo/scan Reply with quote

Well got my first roll of film developed today. Some of the photos actually came out better than I expected Very Happy of course some were down right horrid Embarassed

Nikon F5 with Micro-Nikkor 55/2.8 Kodak Gold 200 scanned from print.

f/5.6 1/100 (resized for web - no post processing)


PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, scan the negs, you'll see a difference! You may as well enjoy the full
capability of that V750!

Still, that is pretty good results and a very nice shot!

Bill


PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was doing the prints first because it was easier Wink . I have shots of a bush with lots of white blooms that all run together on the print. I am hoping that scanning the negative will bring out more detail. Overall, I am happy with how the shots came out.


PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paste them up when you get them scanned, would like to see them! No
problem posting them here, rather than APF!

Bill


PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice mike. You bought a V750? You must be very serious about going to film.
Bills right, I think its safe for us three oddballs to use film here.


PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the V750 a little while ago. I am going to scan all the family photos. I do expect to shoot a fair amount of film.


PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A comparison of scans on an Epson V750 Pro. Film was Kodak Gold 200.

Scanned (Full Auto Mode) from print (no post processing - except resize)


Scanned (Full Auto Mode) from dry negative (no post processing - except resize)


Processed negative scan


So much to learn Shocked


PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, sorry I missed this, but the scanned neg looks way better! Did you
use noise reduction in the postprocessing?


PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I missed it also Mike. Scanned negative is fer better.


PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys!
Little bit of NeatImage on the processed one (about 20% noise reduction).


PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, Neat Image does a pretty sloppy job, like using a meat cleaver for
brain surgery. The detail has been lobotomized in the processed image
due to Neat Image. I would go with a lesser percentage say 10% and see
if that gains enough information that was lost at 20. Is there a way to load
a profile of the scanner to Neat Image, like Noise Ninja Pro?

Bill


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is probably a way to save a profile, I'll look into it (eventually). Since I got the D3, I rarely even use it anymore Cool . This was just a quick PP job.


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schnauzer wrote:
Very nice mike. You bought a V750? You must be very serious about going to film.
Bills right, I think its safe for us three oddballs to use film here.


Uhhh make that four Wink (hey there's a bunch of us actually. We're downright mainstream!)


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jules,

Mike, Ron, and myself are refugees from another forum where we are moderators. LOL I think there are more of us than 4 that like film on this
forum, but at least we know there are four. Wink

Bill


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance to see this pictures in higher resolution around 6 MP , I start to getting serious to invest a V750 ,but first I would like to see hi-res pictures.


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will work on it this evening after work.
May not be a good idea to use my photos/scans to help decide anything Shocked


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This flower pictures seems good subject to decide , thank you in advance!


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila,
I emailed you the large files, as I did not know if you wanted them posted or not. I am also not smart enough to post thumbnails and link to full size photo. Confused


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice shot of the flowers.

Katastrofo wrote:
. . . LOL I think there are more of us than 4 that like film on this forum, but at least we know there are four. Wink

Bill


So Bill, where does one sign up on the prefer film club? (I guess I make 5 . . . any more Luddites out there? Wink ) Laughing

Jim


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jim!

As it turns out Full Auto Mode does not even come close to utilizing the capabilities of this scanner. Full Auto will give you a resolution of 300 dpi, the scanner is capable of over 12,000 dpi. I rescanned some of the negatives tonight at 2400 dpi. Needless to say, it makes a difference. Might be time for me to pull up the owners manual and see what all the sliders and buttons do!


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Michael, are you starting a rival film-users club? We've already had one going since the forum started! Smile Seriously, I don't seem to be using my digital camera anywhere near as much now I have the V700 and, come to think of it, I've only posted film pics here since I bought it.

I'm sure you can see how much better your scan of the negative is over the print, it's a beautiful picture. Your scanner and your camera lenses have way better performance than consumer-level lab printers and you take more care than they do, so why introduce a weak link?

I've been spending spare moments over the past couple of months scanning old slides and negs and I'm only scanning prints if the negative is lost. It will take years to scan every pic at high resolution, so I'm using Full Auto mode to make reference pictures and saving them as they come off the scanner, about 1800x1200 for a 35mm neg. Then if I want a better resolution of a particular picture (like I did with the Edinburgh shots) I use Professional mode.

BTW, in Full Auto mode 300dpi is the default but you can choose the resolution you want (up to 1200 at least). Click on the Customize button first.


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info!

Bill is the one who got me started on film (and manual focus).

I was pretty sure I could change the resolution once I got into the program a little more. When I actually read the instructions I will find there are a lot of things I can do better. I like having control over the results of my scans now that I have seen the difference in what the lab came up with for the print over the result I got with the scan from the negative.


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got 2400 dpi picture from Mike, I think we must publish some good scan here to inform people don't throw away film just buy a good scanner like this.

I will prepare for you a core member directory in main site gallery and please put there hi-res pictures much as you can. It will be a good commercial to film!


PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great Smile

on topic of noise reduction software... I use Noiseware Professional plugin for Photoshop, it is amazing.

You can also do huge noise reduction on a new layer, and mask in the subject, so only out of focus area has noise reduction, good technique and illusion, noise/grain on subject isnt too bad.

Also multilayer one with noise reduction and opacity turned works well too.


PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice, actually I have several medium format cameras, as well as my Nikon. May try and scan off an old Epson 4180, came with the negative trays.