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maddog10
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1072 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: First film photo/scan |
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maddog10 wrote:
Well got my first roll of film developed today. Some of the photos actually came out better than I expected of course some were down right horrid
Nikon F5 with Micro-Nikkor 55/2.8 Kodak Gold 200 scanned from print.
f/5.6 1/100 (resized for web - no post processing)
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:50 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Mike, scan the negs, you'll see a difference! You may as well enjoy the full
capability of that V750!
Still, that is pretty good results and a very nice shot!
Bill |
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maddog10
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
Was doing the prints first because it was easier . I have shots of a bush with lots of white blooms that all run together on the print. I am hoping that scanning the negative will bring out more detail. Overall, I am happy with how the shots came out. _________________ Michael Hill |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Paste them up when you get them scanned, would like to see them! No
problem posting them here, rather than APF!
Bill |
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Schnauzer
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 2155 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Very nice mike. You bought a V750? You must be very serious about going to film.
Bills right, I think its safe for us three oddballs to use film here. _________________ Ron |
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maddog10
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1072 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:55 am Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
I bought the V750 a little while ago. I am going to scan all the family photos. I do expect to shoot a fair amount of film. _________________ Michael Hill |
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maddog10
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1072 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:46 am Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
A comparison of scans on an Epson V750 Pro. Film was Kodak Gold 200.
Scanned (Full Auto Mode) from print (no post processing - except resize)
Scanned (Full Auto Mode) from dry negative (no post processing - except resize)
Processed negative scan
So much to learn _________________ Michael Hill |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Mike, sorry I missed this, but the scanned neg looks way better! Did you
use noise reduction in the postprocessing? |
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Schnauzer
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 2155 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
I missed it also Mike. Scanned negative is fer better. _________________ Ron |
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maddog10
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1072 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
Thanks guys!
Little bit of NeatImage on the processed one (about 20% noise reduction). _________________ Michael Hill |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Mike, Neat Image does a pretty sloppy job, like using a meat cleaver for
brain surgery. The detail has been lobotomized in the processed image
due to Neat Image. I would go with a lesser percentage say 10% and see
if that gains enough information that was lost at 20. Is there a way to load
a profile of the scanner to Neat Image, like Noise Ninja Pro?
Bill |
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maddog10
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1072 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
There is probably a way to save a profile, I'll look into it (eventually). Since I got the D3, I rarely even use it anymore . This was just a quick PP job. _________________ Michael Hill |
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
Schnauzer wrote: |
Very nice mike. You bought a V750? You must be very serious about going to film.
Bills right, I think its safe for us three oddballs to use film here. |
Uhhh make that four (hey there's a bunch of us actually. We're downright mainstream!) |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jules,
Mike, Ron, and myself are refugees from another forum where we are moderators. LOL I think there are more of us than 4 that like film on this
forum, but at least we know there are four.
Bill |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Any chance to see this pictures in higher resolution around 6 MP , I start to getting serious to invest a V750 ,but first I would like to see hi-res pictures. _________________ -------------------------------
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maddog10
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:04 am Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
I will work on it this evening after work.
May not be a good idea to use my photos/scans to help decide anything _________________ Michael Hill |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This flower pictures seems good subject to decide , thank you in advance! _________________ -------------------------------
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maddog10
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
Attila,
I emailed you the large files, as I did not know if you wanted them posted or not. I am also not smart enough to post thumbnails and link to full size photo. _________________ Michael Hill |
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j.lukow
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 858 Location: Lindsay Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: |
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j.lukow wrote:
Nice shot of the flowers.
Katastrofo wrote: |
. . . LOL I think there are more of us than 4 that like film on this forum, but at least we know there are four.
Bill |
So Bill, where does one sign up on the prefer film club? (I guess I make 5 . . . any more Luddites out there? )
Jim _________________ EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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maddog10
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
Thanks Jim!
As it turns out Full Auto Mode does not even come close to utilizing the capabilities of this scanner. Full Auto will give you a resolution of 300 dpi, the scanner is capable of over 12,000 dpi. I rescanned some of the negatives tonight at 2400 dpi. Needless to say, it makes a difference. Might be time for me to pull up the owners manual and see what all the sliders and buttons do! _________________ Michael Hill |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Hey Michael, are you starting a rival film-users club? We've already had one going since the forum started! Seriously, I don't seem to be using my digital camera anywhere near as much now I have the V700 and, come to think of it, I've only posted film pics here since I bought it.
I'm sure you can see how much better your scan of the negative is over the print, it's a beautiful picture. Your scanner and your camera lenses have way better performance than consumer-level lab printers and you take more care than they do, so why introduce a weak link?
I've been spending spare moments over the past couple of months scanning old slides and negs and I'm only scanning prints if the negative is lost. It will take years to scan every pic at high resolution, so I'm using Full Auto mode to make reference pictures and saving them as they come off the scanner, about 1800x1200 for a 35mm neg. Then if I want a better resolution of a particular picture (like I did with the Edinburgh shots) I use Professional mode.
BTW, in Full Auto mode 300dpi is the default but you can choose the resolution you want (up to 1200 at least). Click on the Customize button first. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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maddog10
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
Thanks for the info!
Bill is the one who got me started on film (and manual focus).
I was pretty sure I could change the resolution once I got into the program a little more. When I actually read the instructions I will find there are a lot of things I can do better. I like having control over the results of my scans now that I have seen the difference in what the lab came up with for the print over the result I got with the scan from the negative. _________________ Michael Hill |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I got 2400 dpi picture from Mike, I think we must publish some good scan here to inform people don't throw away film just buy a good scanner like this.
I will prepare for you a core member directory in main site gallery and please put there hi-res pictures much as you can. It will be a good commercial to film! _________________ -------------------------------
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Athiril
Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Melbourne, Vic, Australia
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Athiril wrote:
Great
on topic of noise reduction software... I use Noiseware Professional plugin for Photoshop, it is amazing.
You can also do huge noise reduction on a new layer, and mask in the subject, so only out of focus area has noise reduction, good technique and illusion, noise/grain on subject isnt too bad.
Also multilayer one with noise reduction and opacity turned works well too. |
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Bob
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Bob wrote:
Very nice, actually I have several medium format cameras, as well as my Nikon. May try and scan off an old Epson 4180, came with the negative trays. _________________ Bob
"In terms of addiction, there is nothing more powerful than men's toys."
Sammy Davis Jr. |
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