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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: Contax Vario-Sonnar 35-70: wow! |
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Nikos wrote:
I expected this lens to be good.
But mostly I bought it because it is lightweight and it can do 1:2.5 macro.
And I also wanted to try a Contax zoom.
The results where impressive.
I now have 8 Zeiss lenses. I think this one has the best 3D rendering.
Wonderful colors and contrast.
I had just taken my first shots with the Planar 2/135.
I changed lens and took a photo. The result was noticeably better!
I think this says it all. Perhaps I had trouble focusing the Planar with a moving subject, but ...
I will upload here some high-res images.
Here is the first photo I took. 70mm @ f3.4 (wide open)
1a. Whole frame
1b. 100% crop of the center
One more:
2. 70mm @ f/3.4
_________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Impressive! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
It's a fantastic lens and the one I shall use as my walkaround lens when I travel to New York nexy year So sharp! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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a20010494
Joined: 15 Feb 2010 Posts: 396 Location: Perú.
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:55 am Post subject: |
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a20010494 wrote:
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:16 am Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
It's a fantastic lens and the one I shall use as my walkaround lens }......................So sharp! |
The only zoom that I should have. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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ersatz
Joined: 29 May 2010 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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ersatz wrote:
This is probably my favorite C/Y lens. I love the bokeh is produces in macro mode and the sharpness and contrast rival the c/y primes. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Omar wrote: |
Very nice! So sharp wide open it's almost too sharp. Is this better than the Vario sonnar 28-80 in terms of sharpness and overall rendering? |
The advantage over the 28-85mm is the lighter weight and a bit less distortion at the wide end. Both lenses are excellent. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Omar wrote: |
Very nice! So sharp wide open it's almost too sharp. Is this better than the Vario sonnar 28-80 in terms of sharpness and overall rendering? |
Sharper than 28-85, yes, definitely. The 35-70 is one of the sharpest Contax lenses.
Overall rendering, I don't know. The 28-85 images look very nice to my eye. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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agentex
Joined: 04 Jan 2010 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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agentex wrote:
I love this lens, was my first Zeiss and have never looked back. _________________ Vario Sonnar 35-70, Planar 50 1.4, Planar 85 1.4, Makro-Planar 100 2.8, Super-Takumar 35 3.5, Super-Takumar 135 3.5, Full Frame 5DmkII |
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1387 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:02 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
The advantage over the 28-85mm is the lighter weight and a bit less distortion at the wide end. Both lenses are excellent. |
Precisely. To be picky, the 35-70 vignettes more on the wide end than the humongous 28-85, and has a nice macro mode that the 28-85 doesn't. It's also a lot lighter and smaller - you have to hold the two lenses in both hands to really appreciate its diminutive size compared to the larger lens. _________________ List of lenses |
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kopimorning
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 97 Location: Jakarta-Bali
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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kopimorning wrote:
Omar wrote: |
Thank you guys for the answer. I need to get me one of these...so many lenses that I want... |
Sometime (mostly) you want it, not because of you need it _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/41597826@N04 |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
I managed to get this lens in like new condition for 220€ and after a first walk with it, I must say, that I'm really impressed. Very sharp picture taker.
That will absolutly stay with me!
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:09 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Congratulations Klaus! I've been using mine for street photography this weekend and will put some up later _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
exaklaus wrote: |
I managed to get this lens in like new condition for 220€ and after a first walk with it, I must say, that I'm really impressed. Very sharp picture taker.
That will absolutly stay with me!
Klaus |
Really good price!
Where did you get it from? _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:11 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay.de
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Congrats ! Nice that you got this lens.
I saw the auction and thought to make a bit by myself. But I have in the meantime to much lenses so I have renounced. Hopefully I will not think that this was a mistake if you will show here the first images. _________________ Rolf |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5078 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
and what about the vario-sonnar 3.5-4.5/28-70mm ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
SLr and MF lenses : for feedback and helping people, cameras and lenses I own : full list here http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1442740.html#1442740 |
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zeissfan
Joined: 06 Apr 2015 Posts: 1 Location: Edinburgh Scotland
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:42 pm Post subject: Vario-Sonnar 35-70 |
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zeissfan wrote:
Hi guys, I am new to the forum, what a pleasure to read about MF lenses ! I had this and other CZ lenses for a Contax RX, which I still use. I wanted to try all of them on my Canon 5D MkII, but did not want to order an expensive adapter in case there was a problem. So with minimal outlay I managed to find a cheap one, about 20 euros or so. The Vario-Sonnar works well and I was amazed at the results, few pics included. The 50 mm Planar 1.4 and 28 mm Distagon 2.8 lenses however don't seem to work....is the Leitax converter the best option ? Any other suggestions ? Apologies if these topics have been covered recently
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
I've been using a distagon 2.8/28 on a 5dIII recently with a 10 euros adapter and everything worked just fine. What it's wrong with yours? _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
Samples from my lenses
My gear
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5078 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Vario-Sonnar 35-70 |
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Olivier wrote:
zeissfan wrote: |
Hi guys, I am new to the forum, what a pleasure to read about MF lenses ! I had this and other CZ lenses for a Contax RX, which I still use. I wanted to try all of them on my Canon 5D MkII, but did not want to order an expensive adapter in case there was a problem. So with minimal outlay I managed to find a cheap one, about 20 euros or so. The Vario-Sonnar works well and I was amazed at the results, few pics included. The 50 mm Planar 1.4 and 28 mm Distagon 2.8 lenses however don't seem to work....is the Leitax converter the best option ? Any other suggestions ? Apologies if these topics have been covered recently
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Hello Zeissfan and welcome aboard.
Your pictures didn't show because of antispam measures.
Now that I quoted your message, your future posts will have pictures appear without problem.
Great IQ for sure. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
SLr and MF lenses : for feedback and helping people, cameras and lenses I own : full list here http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1442740.html#1442740 |
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Langstrum
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 351
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Langstrum wrote:
Wow wow wow, much more than I can expect before clicking to your thread
Congrats, this lens can replace few primes for sure. _________________
Camera: Sony A7 mark III, A6300
AF Lenses:
Canon EF 50/1.8; EF 200/2.8 L, EF 200/1.8 L, EF 300/4 L Sony E mount SEL 50/1.8 OSS, SEL 16/2.8 Fuji X mount XF 35/1.4 R
MF Lenses: Peleng MC 8/3.5, 17/2.8 Samyang 14/T3.1, 35/T1.5, TS 24/3.5 ED, 85/T1.5, Polar 85/1.4 Auto Revuenon 28/2.8; MC 50/1.4 Vega11U 50/2.8 Carl Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (exakta mount) Auto Chinon 50/1.9 Zenitar ME1 50/1.7 Sears Auto Sears 55/1.4; Sears 135/2.8 Auto Yashinon DX 50/1.4; Tomioka 50/1.2 SMC Pentax 50/1.7; 50/1.4 Canon FD 50/1.4 S.S.C; 55/1.2 S.S.C; FD 50/1.2 L; FD 85/1.2 L; 85/1.2 S.S.C Aspherical; FD 80-200/4 L 300/2.8 S.S.C Fluorite FD 300/2.8 L FD 200/1.8 LCosina-S 50/1.2 Helios Helios 44 Chrome f/22, 44-2, 44-3, 44M-4, 44M-7 (58/2), Helios-40 85/1.5 Jupiter Jupiter-9 85/2; Jupiter-37A 135/3.5; Jupiter-21M 200/4 Nikon Ai 105/2.5 Tairs-3S 300/4.5
Voigtlander 15/4.5 Aspherical; Ultron 35/1.7
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
This lens has the reputation of being one of the best zooms ever, beats many primes, the biggest downsize for me is it's size. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
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scottgee1
Joined: 02 Jul 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Motown!
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:39 am Post subject: May be common knowledge but . . . |
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scottgee1 wrote:
Seems fitting to add to a newly revived thread because I'm just returning to the forum after a long absence.
This may be common knowledge but in case it is not . . .
Zeiss kindly continue to maintain a download center of datasheets and info for historical kit:
http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/service/download_center.html
Germane to this conversation are the sheets for the Vario-Sonnar zooms under 'Contax-Yashica' that include MTF charts. Whilst the 35-70 is very good indeed, the 28-85 is better, especially at wider apertures.
Even more detailed evidence is available at the venerable Photodo site:
http://www.photodo.com/browse-lenses
Filter for Manufacturer/Contax and navigate to the 'Images' tab for a lens to see even more detailed MTF charts -- well for most if not all lenses.
All that said, I own both a 28-70 and a 35-70 and find I use the former more than the latter because I prefer the way it handles. The surprise is that despite clearly inferior MTF results, I also like the way it renders; perhaps I simply have poor eyes. For the record, I bought and returned a 28-85 many years ago. Optically excellent of course but so cumbersome I considered it a tripod only lens. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7555 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:59 am Post subject: Re: May be common knowledge but . . . |
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calvin83 wrote:
scottgee1 wrote: |
Seems fitting to add to a newly revived thread because I'm just returning to the forum after a long absence.
This may be common knowledge but in case it is not . . .
Zeiss kindly continue to maintain a download center of datasheets and info for historical kit:
http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/service/download_center.html
Germane to this conversation are the sheets for the Vario-Sonnar zooms under 'Contax-Yashica' that include MTF charts. Whilst the 35-70 is very good indeed, the 28-85 is better, especially at wider apertures.
Even more detailed evidence is available at the venerable Photodo site:
http://www.photodo.com/browse-lenses
Filter for Manufacturer/Contax and navigate to the 'Images' tab for a lens to see even more detailed MTF charts -- well for most if not all lenses.
All that said, I own both a 28-70 and a 35-70 and find I use the former more than the latter because I prefer the way it handles. The surprise is that despite clearly inferior MTF results, I also like the way it renders; perhaps I simply have poor eyes. For the record, I bought and returned a 28-85 many years ago. Optically excellent of course but so cumbersome I considered it a tripod only lens. |
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doomed-forever
Joined: 09 Aug 2014 Posts: 239
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:02 am Post subject: |
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doomed-forever wrote:
The 28-85 is a true Zeiss Gem, but very huge & heavy...the Yashica ML 28-85 is not that far from it, but does have a macro mode,
and is lighter, comes with a 67mm filter thread...and a rare lens, usually all few years comes one on ebay into mint condition.
Sadly, the 28-85 ML Yashica is like the Contax Zeiss Original just a Push-Pull Design, not a 2-way Zoom like the Contax 28-70/3.5-4.5
for example, which was especially built and the so called "Kitzoom" for the Contax Aria back into 1998. I remember quite well these days,
and when the Aria Brochure came out. The Yashica ML 28-50/3.5 onto the other hand, introduced in ca. 79, is like the Contax Zeiss 28-70
also a coventional Zoom Design...not a Push-Pull Zoom, too....but it's built like a tank, mechanically better than the Contax Zeiss 28-70. |
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