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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:04 am    Post subject: Medium format legacy lenses list Reply with quote
As promised, I found the time to "polish" not just the 35mm legacy lenses list I already posted and that I was using as a personal reference, but now the one about medium format lenses as well.

You can find it at:

http://www.addicted2light.com/2015/02/12/medium-format-legacy-lenses-sizes-and-specs/


Careful, the page will take its sweet time to load, because the list is 579Kb, so please be patient!

This list is not as detailed as the 35mm one, because finding informations about medium format lenses has always been more difficult, given a smaller user base.

Anyway I hope it will turn out to be useful to someone else, so enjoy it and beware of sudden attacks of G.A.S. Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you for the link, and also for the time and trouble that you have taken in its preparation.
It is appreciated
OH


PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
+10
Really useful, and appriciated. Thanks


PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Excellent! I am just starting in the medium format arena. Got an old folder for super cheap. (franka solida III for 59 USD) got me hooked on the quality of image available with a larger negative. The quality of some of the photos was great some not so. I decided to opt for a camera with a little better ease of control. Got a pentax 67. I have since added several lenses but the camera had a shutter issue (purchased as-is for 114 USD) its in the shop right now. Can't wait to get it back! I read excellent reviews of the 67 lenses for this camera. Anybody got an opinion on how they compare to Mamiya Sekor lenses for the 645?


PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That is a nice list good work!
I know a few that can be added to the Bronica SQ lineup.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jamaeolus wrote:
Excellent! I am just starting in the medium format arena. Got an old folder for super cheap. (franka solida III for 59 USD) got me hooked on the quality of image available with a larger negative. The quality of some of the photos was great some not so. I decided to opt for a camera with a little better ease of control. Got a pentax 67. I have since added several lenses but the camera had a shutter issue (purchased as-is for 114 USD) its in the shop right now. Can't wait to get it back! I read excellent reviews of the 67 lenses for this camera. Anybody got an opinion on how they compare to Mamiya Sekor lenses for the 645?


Both are very good indeed.
The Pentax 67 lenses are heavier of course, and the Mamiya much easier to handle.
There are some Mamiya lenses that are exceptional 2.8/150A and the 2.8/200A and they sell for much higher prices accordingly.
If I had to choose between them, I would lean towards the Mamiyas for their colour rendition and ease of use.
Also I have read that the very long Pentax67 lenses will take a different adapter to those up to 200mm
OH


PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have the pentax 67 and the mamiya rz67. The pentax lenses are great, but the mamiyas 67s are better. But that's with my samples, also the pentax 67 is more flexible.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
blotafton wrote:
That is a nice list good work!
I know a few that can be added to the Bronica SQ lineup.


Thanks! If you have lens data as well (groups, elements, size etc.) please just write me an email, here or on my blog, and I'll update the list as soon as I have a bit of spare time (it takes time to format things properly for the website).


PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jamaeolus wrote:
Excellent! I am just starting in the medium format arena. Got an old folder for super cheap. (franka solida III for 59 USD) got me hooked on the quality of image available with a larger negative. The quality of some of the photos was great some not so. I decided to opt for a camera with a little better ease of control. Got a pentax 67. I have since added several lenses but the camera had a shutter issue (purchased as-is for 114 USD) its in the shop right now. Can't wait to get it back! I read excellent reviews of the 67 lenses for this camera. Anybody got an opinion on how they compare to Mamiya Sekor lenses for the 645?


Both are really good systems, especially if you intend to use the lenses on film only. For the Pentax 67 the old 75 Takumar, the 165/2.8 and naturally the 105 are really something special. The 45, at least my sample, was decent enough but the borders were not so great.

Bonus tip: if you have the old body model without the MLU (Mirror Lock Up) press firmly on top of the prism when you fire an exposure; it seems counterintuitive - after all we learn not to touch the tripod ever - but it works like a charm to cut down the sharpness-robbing-mirror-slap-induced-vibrations. Alternatively for the same purpose you can use a bean bag, but why carry something when you have your hands with you Wink


PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
fotoreporter1975 wrote:
jamaeolus wrote:
Excellent! I am just starting in the medium format arena. Got an old folder for super cheap. (franka solida III for 59 USD) got me hooked on the quality of image available with a larger negative. The quality of some of the photos was great some not so. I decided to opt for a camera with a little better ease of control. Got a pentax 67. I have since added several lenses but the camera had a shutter issue (purchased as-is for 114 USD) its in the shop right now. Can't wait to get it back! I read excellent reviews of the 67 lenses for this camera. Anybody got an opinion on how they compare to Mamiya Sekor lenses for the 645?


Both are really good systems, especially if you intend to use the lenses on film only. For the Pentax 67 the old 75 Takumar, the 165/2.8 and naturally the 105 are really something special.


I have these two lenses and they are excellent as fotoreporter1975 says.
I don't use them with film, but bought them when they were cheap for their reputation - they do not disappoint.
Mine are used on DSLR with adapter.
I had always liked the idea of owning a Pentax 67 camera one day, but it has not happened yet Very Happy
OH


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
jamaeolus wrote:
Excellent! I am just starting in the medium format arena. Got an old folder for super cheap. (franka solida III for 59 USD) got me hooked on the quality of image available with a larger negative. The quality of some of the photos was great some not so. I decided to opt for a camera with a little better ease of control. Got a pentax 67. I have since added several lenses but the camera had a shutter issue (purchased as-is for 114 USD) its in the shop right now. Can't wait to get it back! I read excellent reviews of the 67 lenses for this camera. Anybody got an opinion on how they compare to Mamiya Sekor lenses for the 645?


I forgot to tell you about the Mamiya!

In terms of sharpness I'd stay away from the 35 (usually pretty poor borders) and from the old 45. The newer (letter "N") version of both is said to be a tad better. The 55 is a nice lens, almost the size of a 50mm for 35mm film, and the 80s are all great (80/2.8, 80/1.9, 80 macro), as is the 150.

It should also be pretty good the ULD (Ultra Low Dispersion) zoom 110-200, at least judging by the internet buzz, while the 55-110 is handy but with poor borders and not as sharp as the primes it should replace.

Especially when shopping for Mamiya lenses check carefully the lens with the aperture fully open and against a light source. I don't know if I 've been simply unlucky, but I've stumbled upon many Mamiya 645 lenses with fungus problems.

BTW, both Mamiya and Pentax with a relatively cheap *bay adapter can be used as tilt lenses on a digital body, especially handy if you have a full format one (given the focal lengths involved).


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
fotoreporter1975 wrote:
jamaeolus wrote:
Excellent! I am just starting in the medium format arena. Got an old folder for super cheap. (franka solida III for 59 USD) got me hooked on the quality of image available with a larger negative. The quality of some of the photos was great some not so. I decided to opt for a camera with a little better ease of control. Got a pentax 67. I have since added several lenses but the camera had a shutter issue (purchased as-is for 114 USD) its in the shop right now. Can't wait to get it back! I read excellent reviews of the 67 lenses for this camera. Anybody got an opinion on how they compare to Mamiya Sekor lenses for the 645?


I forgot to tell you about the Mamiya!

In terms of sharpness I'd stay away from the 35 (usually pretty poor borders) and from the old 45. The newer (letter "N") version of both is said to be a tad better. The 55 is a nice lens, almost the size of a 50mm for 35mm film, and the 80s are all great (80/2.8, 80/1.9, 80 macro), as is the 150.

It should also be pretty good the ULD (Ultra Low Dispersion) zoom 110-200, at least judging by the internet buzz, while the 55-110 is handy but with poor borders and not as sharp as the primes it should replace.

Especially when shopping for Mamiya lenses check carefully the lens with the aperture fully open and against a light source. I don't know if I 've been simply unlucky, but I've stumbled upon many Mamiya 645 lenses with fungus problems.

BTW, both Mamiya and Pentax with a relatively cheap *bay adapter can be used as tilt lenses on a digital body, especially handy if you have a full format one (given the focal lengths involved).


Yes indeed - the 105-210 zoom is a very good lens.
There are some images from this lens on the forum:
http://forum.mflenses.com/mamiya-sekor-4-5-105-210-uld-the-birds-and-the-bees-t68738,highlight,%2Bmamiya.html
Here are a couple of other quick grabs from this evening from this lens. Not on a full frame or film camera but an APS-C - but you get the idea
OH





PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: Medium format legacy lenses list Reply with quote
fotoreporter1975 wrote:
As promised, I found the time to "polish" not just the 35mm legacy lenses list I already posted and that I was using as a personal reference, but now the one about medium format lenses as well.

You can find it at:

http://www.addicted2light.com/2015/02/12/medium-format-legacy-lenses-sizes-and-specs/

Thank you so much for the very useful list.

You might want to add the wonderful rangefinder lenses created by Fuji for the G690 / G670 series and also the lenses for other less known medium format cameras, such as the Koni Omega, the Rittreck 6x9, the Norita 66 or even the super rare Contax on steroids, the Combat Graflex.

Cheers!

Abbazz


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Medium format legacy lenses list Reply with quote
Abbazz wrote:
fotoreporter1975 wrote:
As promised, I found the time to "polish" not just the 35mm legacy lenses list I already posted and that I was using as a personal reference, but now the one about medium format lenses as well.

You can find it at:

http://www.addicted2light.com/2015/02/12/medium-format-legacy-lenses-sizes-and-specs/

Thank you so much for the very useful list.

You might want to add the wonderful rangefinder lenses created by Fuji for the G690 / G670 series and also the lenses for other less known medium format cameras, such as the Koni Omega, the Rittreck 6x9, the Norita 66 or even the super rare Contax on steroids, the Combat Graflex.

Cheers!

Abbazz


Yes, Fuji lenses (especially if paired with Velvia) are my absolute favorite on pretty much any format, and I've used them on 4x5", 6x9 and 4,5x6 Very Happy

I didn't put them (or many others, for that matter) in the list because I've absolutely zero information about them, besides name and focal length. If someone can help with at least size, apertures and optical scheme (number of elements plus groups) I'll update the list.


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Medium format legacy lenses list Reply with quote
fotoreporter1975 wrote:
Yes, Fuji lenses (especially if paired with Velvia) are my absolute favorite on pretty much any format, and I've used them on 4x5", 6x9 and 4,5x6 Very Happy

I didn't put them (or many others, for that matter) in the list because I've absolutely zero information about them, besides name and focal length. If someone can help with at least size, apertures and optical scheme (number of elements plus groups) I'll update the list.

Just follow the link in my previous post. Wink

Cheers!

Abbazz


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
An old bronica brochure I have, hope it helps Smile





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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Medium format legacy lenses list Reply with quote
Abbazz wrote:
fotoreporter1975 wrote:
Yes, Fuji lenses (especially if paired with Velvia) are my absolute favorite on pretty much any format, and I've used them on 4x5", 6x9 and 4,5x6 Very Happy

I didn't put them (or many others, for that matter) in the list because I've absolutely zero information about them, besides name and focal length. If someone can help with at least size, apertures and optical scheme (number of elements plus groups) I'll update the list.

Just follow the link in my previous post. Wink

Cheers!

Abbazz


Jeez I'm distracted sometimes...I didn't see the links! Embarassed

Thanks!


PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
blotafton wrote:
An old bronica brochure I have, hope it helps Smile





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Thank you, I've just updated the list!
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