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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: Noise Ninja Pro |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I finally broke down and bought Noise Ninja Pro. These were taken with
the Nikon F, Tammie SP 35-80 zoom, and using Kodak Gold 200. Scans
were from the Epson 4490 at 2400dpi:
and the cat using Noise Ninja Pro:
Here's the non-ninja'ed version:
These shots were after a rain storm.
Bill
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Excellent decision, it is the best noise software and one of the most useful software I have ever owned. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Orio, I think it's pretty cool, too. This is my first attempt with it,
and now have included the version without noise reduction.
Bill |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
excellent demonstration, you should send it to Picturecode. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Bill,
Did you create and measure profiling charts for this camera/film/scanner combination, or did you use existing profiles? _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Chris, this was "auto-profiled" so no, don't think so. I did this late, well
3am, so I'm not 100% sure.
I'm really happy how this software cleaned up this image, taken with the
Oly 35RC:
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Chris, this was "auto-profiled" so no, don't think so. I did this late, well
3am, so I'm not 100% sure. |
Ah okay, I forgot that option.
I do recommend displaying the test target on screen, photographing it, developing, scanning, and then using the software to construct a profile based on that. I also recommend marking out additional color areas, particularly for very dark colours at assorted levels of saturation. This seems to give a better profile, _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks for the tips, Chris!
Bill |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Yes, Noise Ninja is great! I only have got an older version, but still it is the best I denoiser I have. I started with Noiseware CE (which is not bad at all) but after Noise Ninja you are really spoiled. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Carsten, once I get all the custom profiles loaded, I'll like this
software even more!
Bill |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I use Bibble Pro 4.9 and it has that as a plug in. Great to use, love it. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Like the shots.
Do you know a site where are compared some Noise Reduction software ?
I use the free version of Noiseware Community (don't know what version) and I don't know if worth spending money on a such specialised software and with this one I use, for free. The think is that I don't need it too much because I didn't saw much noise/granulation on the film scanned pictures. _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I'm with Klaus - NN is built in to Bibble and although it is a "lean" version it does a great job.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I'm thinking about getting Bibble Lite, I got NN Pro for scanning film, primarily. I did the trial version of Bibble, and it is better than what is
bundled with CS3. |
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Rob Leslie
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 1103 Location: UK Swindon
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Rob Leslie wrote:
I also have the older version and agree it is great.
I do think there is a lot more to it than doing an auto profile or using a specific profile. I'm a big believer in every image is very different and needs individual adjustment.
This is easy after some practice and experiment with the program.
E.g Question? Do present users find it better to apply Noise reduction before any PS adjustments (Straight after RAW conversion) or at the end of PP to the finished resized image? _________________ Pentax K10D & K100D. Many Tamron Adaptall SP lenses, Fujinon f4.5 400mm. A loved Lens Baby 2, Lubitel triplet +++ and many film cameras. Mainly a Digital user inc G5, GR2
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Before. Any contrast adjustment or sharpening would alter the noise profile; so its best to take a raw image, convert it to AdobeRGB at 16 bits, save as a 16 bit TIFF, Noise Ninja, and then continue to process the result.
Note for Nikon Capture NX users, Noise Ninja discards some EXIF data with Nikon Capture would retain. Photoshop users on the other hand would not care, since PS discards so much more anyway _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I've often wondered what the best order in the process was. That is solid
gold, Chris, thanks!
Bill |
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