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cyrano
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:25 am Post subject: MF lens prices |
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cyrano wrote:
I'm having a cut back here and will be offloading a bunch of lenses at some point and shall be sticking with up to 5 or so keepers. Is there any reliable source for pricing or is the usual method being check out the for sale prices on private listings as Ebay is somewhat erratic regarding asking prices?
Any help appreciated. _________________ A whole bunch of stuff. |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:04 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
I think the search for the Ebay sold prices is best.
Further help could give this list from James L. Colwell
http://www.jcolwell.ca/photography/lens$db/index.htm _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
I AM A LENS NERD!
Epis, Elmaron, Emerald, Ernostar, Helioplan and Heidosmat.
Epiotar, Kameraobjektiv, Anastigmat, Epis, Meganast, Magnagon, Quinar, Culmigon, Novotrinast, Novflexar, Colorplan, Sekor, Kinon, Talon, Telemegor, Xenon, Xenar, Ultra, Ultra Star. Tessar, Janar, Visionar, Kiptar, Kipronar and Rotelar.
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3245 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Moved from marketplace. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Asking on this forum perhaps. We love to evaluate lenses . _________________ ---------------------------------
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1318 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Bear in mind that street cred on this forum is getting lenses for next to nuffink _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
marcusBMG wrote: |
Bear in mind that street cred on this forum is getting lenses for next to nuffink |
_________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7574 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
marcusBMG wrote: |
Bear in mind that street cred on this forum is getting lenses for next to nuffink |
couldn't agree more _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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-rageQuit-
Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Posts: 22
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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-rageQuit- wrote:
Then you should ask the opposite question:
"I'm looking for lens X. I've seen it as a Buy-it-Now for YYY. I think this is too much. How much should I expect to pay for one in Z condition?"
And add 20% to that, say. This is provided you're not trying to shift some Hanimex horror. |
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bychance
Joined: 24 Apr 2013 Posts: 347 Location: Kent, England
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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bychance wrote:
Ask what you would like as a starting price in auction and see what happens. Then you may get more, or, will know it is worth keeping until later.#
Whatever, you cant win _________________ I got where I am by avoiding where I was going.
Now where was I? |
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newst
Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 617 Location: Troy, MI USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:01 pm Post subject: Possible Alternate Data Source |
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newst wrote:
The lens databases in Pentax Forums (www.pentaxforums.com) usually provide a current pricing guide for the lenses they review, and they review a lot of lenses, not just Pentax. The reviews are generally user/owner reviews so the pricing guidance is based on an average of what the reviewers are paying for their lenses.
The same kind of information is also provided in the lens reviews at All Photo Lenses (http://allphotolenses.com/) _________________ Steve
Just an armadillo on the shoulder of the information superhighway. |
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inombrable
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 545 Location: Salamanca, Mexico
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Possible Alternate Data Source |
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inombrable wrote:
newst wrote: |
The same kind of information is also provided in the lens reviews at All Photo Lenses (http://allphotolenses.com/) |
I wouldn't trust that much pricing on All Photo Lenses, my CZJ Flektogon 20 mm f/2.8 is priced there at around 6000 USD !!!!! and they really go for about 200-300 USD
I think your best bet is ebay sold listings as they are the most recent prices, another site that can give you a mild idea is collectiblend.com. |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:26 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Take into account what you bought it for and what you would like to get for it...I did use ebay as a base,but also what I knew about each lens and tried to set a fair price. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Tervueren
Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 1177 Location: West Sussex, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Tervueren wrote:
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that. |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:58 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
Tervueren wrote: |
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that. |
Oh yes, it seems to get cheaper.
I noticed the same with the Schneider Xenon 25mm/0.95, which was ~3 years ago sold for 700 Euro, now only ~350.
I suppose the relative cheap new fast lenses are the reason for this.
At the moment I am still not sure, but probably the Trioplan sold prices are also getting lower.
But I am not sure wheter this are only particular lenses which are getting cheaper, or wheter this is a general trend. I suppose the first.
A lot of formerly cheap mass producted lenses are sold for much money. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
I AM A LENS NERD!
Epis, Elmaron, Emerald, Ernostar, Helioplan and Heidosmat.
Epiotar, Kameraobjektiv, Anastigmat, Epis, Meganast, Magnagon, Quinar, Culmigon, Novotrinast, Novflexar, Colorplan, Sekor, Kinon, Talon, Telemegor, Xenon, Xenar, Ultra, Ultra Star. Tessar, Janar, Visionar, Kiptar, Kipronar and Rotelar.
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7574 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:14 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
ZoneV wrote: |
Tervueren wrote: |
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that. |
Oh yes, it seems to get cheaper.
I noticed the same with the Schneider Xenon 25mm/0.95, which was ~3 years ago sold for 700 Euro, now only ~350.
I suppose the relative cheap new fast lenses are the reason for this.
At the moment I am still not sure, but probably the Trioplan sold prices are also getting lower.
But I am not sure wheter this are only particular lenses which are getting cheaper, or wheter this is a general trend. I suppose the first.
A lot of formerly cheap mass producted lenses are sold for much money. |
Expensive lens have become cheaper thanks to the lowered demand in China. C mount lenses have been drop for sometime as with some common lens. I think the price of Trioplan will drop when the fashion is passed. Lens cost few hundred USD are pretty resistance to price drop. Some rare lens with high demand are unlikely become cheaper in the near future. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1318 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
So here's a question: what lenses are selling now for more than they cost originally (on average)? note that I haven't specified in real terms we can kick that aspect around...
Example 1: tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror. average ebay auction final cost ~£330
Example 2: flektogon 35mm f2.4 .. ditto... over a hundred quid. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7574 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
marcusBMG wrote: |
So here's a question: what lenses are selling now for more than they cost originally (on average)? note that I haven't specified in real terms we can kick that aspect around...
Example 1: tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror. average ebay auction final cost ~£330
Example 2: flektogon 35mm f2.4 .. ditto... over a hundred quid. |
Tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror cost $199.99 on 1984. It is roughly equals to $468 if we consider the inflation. A good copy can be sold for $600+. Not bad for a used lens.
The Minolta 250mm mirror only cost $110.99 on 1984. It is roughly equals to $260 if we consider the inflation. A good copy can be sold for $1000+. Very good for a used lens. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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clockwork247
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:38 am Post subject: |
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clockwork247 wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
marcusBMG wrote: |
So here's a question: what lenses are selling now for more than they cost originally (on average)? note that I haven't specified in real terms we can kick that aspect around...
Example 1: tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror. average ebay auction final cost ~£330
Example 2: flektogon 35mm f2.4 .. ditto... over a hundred quid. |
Tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror cost $199.99 on 1984. It is roughly equals to $468 if we consider the inflation. A good copy can be sold for $600+. Not bad for a used lens.
The Minolta 250mm mirror only cost $110.99 on 1984. It is roughly equals to $260 if we consider the inflation. A good copy can be sold for $1000+. Very good for a used lens. |
that minolta is because of it's limited production, the functionality isn't worth 1000. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Manual focus lenses are better currency then most major currencies. Not exactly gold solid but close enough . OK, many lenses excluded from this generalization but we vaguely know which ones by now. _________________ ---------------------------------
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1318 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Certainly the economics of collectibles applies to numerous quality original mf lenses: finite supply, potentially increasing number of collectors/users. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
Tervueren wrote: |
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that. |
Those Rokkors were wildly overpriced, just as Helios 40's were. But I don't think it's the bubble leaking - rather it's a fad that moved on. It was Rokkor a couple of years ago - nowadays it's FD 85/1.2 L and Rokkor mirrors. |
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Tervueren
Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 1177 Location: West Sussex, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Tervueren wrote:
Gardener wrote: |
Tervueren wrote: |
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that. |
Those Rokkors were wildly overpriced, just as Helios 40's were. But I don't think it's the bubble leaking - rather it's a fad that moved on. It was Rokkor a couple of years ago - nowadays it's FD 85/1.2 L and Rokkor mirrors. |
This is a likely reason I agree. |
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
I remember when the Diana toy camera fad was at its peak about 9 years ago. Boxed examples were selling for $200+ it was crazy. Now a nice boxed example might bring $50 if you're lucky.
While the lowest valley of manual lens prices is now gone and never to return, I think prices have more or less stabilized - excepting particular fads and specific trends. It only takes a few over-hyped articles or forum threads with a large enough audience to inflate prices for something of limited availability for a year or two, but it does pass.
As for what it's worth? If it's something sought after and well known start it for 99 cents on ebay and you'll find out what it's worth in a week. I've even sold a car starting for 99 cents and was not disappointed. If it's something particularly rare or obscure - then list it for what you want to get out of it. If the price is too high it won't sell. If it's too low it will sell immediately. |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
Mos6502 wrote: |
It only takes a few over-hyped articles or forum threads with a large enough audience to inflate prices for something of limited availability for a year or two, but it does pass. |
Very true - that's what happened a while back when some ass-hat posted a youtube review of Tak 135/2.5 sending everyone scrambling for a "good" SMC version and driving up prices, while simultaneously making Super-Tak more affordable by calling it a paperweight. |
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nikono
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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nikono wrote:
The starting price should equal shipping cost to attract attention. |
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