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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:25 am    Post subject: MF lens prices Reply with quote
I'm having a cut back here and will be offloading a bunch of lenses at some point and shall be sticking with up to 5 or so keepers. Is there any reliable source for pricing or is the usual method being check out the for sale prices on private listings as Ebay is somewhat erratic regarding asking prices?
Any help appreciated.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think the search for the Ebay sold prices is best.

Further help could give this list from James L. Colwell
http://www.jcolwell.ca/photography/lens$db/index.htm


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Moved from marketplace.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Asking on this forum perhaps. We love to evaluate lenses Wink.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bear in mind that street cred on this forum is getting lenses for next to nuffink Wink


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
marcusBMG wrote:
Bear in mind that street cred on this forum is getting lenses for next to nuffink Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
marcusBMG wrote:
Bear in mind that street cred on this forum is getting lenses for next to nuffink Wink

couldn't agree more Laughing Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Then you should ask the opposite question:

"I'm looking for lens X. I've seen it as a Buy-it-Now for YYY. I think this is too much. How much should I expect to pay for one in Z condition?"

And add 20% to that, say. This is provided you're not trying to shift some Hanimex horror.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ask what you would like as a starting price in auction and see what happens. Then you may get more, or, will know it is worth keeping until later.#

Whatever, you cant win Smile


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:01 pm    Post subject: Possible Alternate Data Source Reply with quote
The lens databases in Pentax Forums (www.pentaxforums.com) usually provide a current pricing guide for the lenses they review, and they review a lot of lenses, not just Pentax. The reviews are generally user/owner reviews so the pricing guidance is based on an average of what the reviewers are paying for their lenses.

The same kind of information is also provided in the lens reviews at All Photo Lenses (http://allphotolenses.com/)


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Possible Alternate Data Source Reply with quote
newst wrote:
The same kind of information is also provided in the lens reviews at All Photo Lenses (http://allphotolenses.com/)



I wouldn't trust that much pricing on All Photo Lenses, my CZJ Flektogon 20 mm f/2.8 is priced there at around 6000 USD !!!!! and they really go for about 200-300 USD

I think your best bet is ebay sold listings as they are the most recent prices, another site that can give you a mild idea is collectiblend.com.


PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Take into account what you bought it for and what you would like to get for it...I did use ebay as a base,but also what I knew about each lens and tried to set a fair price.

Last edited by mo on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:28 am; edited 2 times in total


PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that.


PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tervueren wrote:
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that.


Oh yes, it seems to get cheaper.
I noticed the same with the Schneider Xenon 25mm/0.95, which was ~3 years ago sold for 700 Euro, now only ~350.
I suppose the relative cheap new fast lenses are the reason for this.
At the moment I am still not sure, but probably the Trioplan sold prices are also getting lower.

But I am not sure wheter this are only particular lenses which are getting cheaper, or wheter this is a general trend. I suppose the first.
A lot of formerly cheap mass producted lenses are sold for much money.


PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ZoneV wrote:
Tervueren wrote:
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that.


Oh yes, it seems to get cheaper.
I noticed the same with the Schneider Xenon 25mm/0.95, which was ~3 years ago sold for 700 Euro, now only ~350.
I suppose the relative cheap new fast lenses are the reason for this.
At the moment I am still not sure, but probably the Trioplan sold prices are also getting lower.

But I am not sure wheter this are only particular lenses which are getting cheaper, or wheter this is a general trend. I suppose the first.
A lot of formerly cheap mass producted lenses are sold for much money.

Expensive lens have become cheaper thanks to the lowered demand in China. C mount lenses have been drop for sometime as with some common lens. I think the price of Trioplan will drop when the fashion is passed. Lens cost few hundred USD are pretty resistance to price drop. Some rare lens with high demand are unlikely become cheaper in the near future.


PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So here's a question: what lenses are selling now for more than they cost originally (on average)? note that I haven't specified in real terms we can kick that aspect around...
Example 1: tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror. average ebay auction final cost ~£330
Example 2: flektogon 35mm f2.4 .. ditto... over a hundred quid.


PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
marcusBMG wrote:
So here's a question: what lenses are selling now for more than they cost originally (on average)? note that I haven't specified in real terms we can kick that aspect around...
Example 1: tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror. average ebay auction final cost ~£330
Example 2: flektogon 35mm f2.4 .. ditto... over a hundred quid.

Tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror cost $199.99 on 1984. It is roughly equals to $468 if we consider the inflation. A good copy can be sold for $600+. Not bad for a used lens.

The Minolta 250mm mirror only cost $110.99 on 1984. It is roughly equals to $260 if we consider the inflation. A good copy can be sold for $1000+. Very good for a used lens. Wink


PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:
marcusBMG wrote:
So here's a question: what lenses are selling now for more than they cost originally (on average)? note that I haven't specified in real terms we can kick that aspect around...
Example 1: tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror. average ebay auction final cost ~£330
Example 2: flektogon 35mm f2.4 .. ditto... over a hundred quid.

Tamron adaptall 06B 350mm mirror cost $199.99 on 1984. It is roughly equals to $468 if we consider the inflation. A good copy can be sold for $600+. Not bad for a used lens.

The Minolta 250mm mirror only cost $110.99 on 1984. It is roughly equals to $260 if we consider the inflation. A good copy can be sold for $1000+. Very good for a used lens. Wink


that minolta is because of it's limited production, the functionality isn't worth 1000.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Manual focus lenses are better currency then most major currencies. Not exactly gold solid but close enough Smile. OK, many lenses excluded from this generalization but we vaguely know which ones by now.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Certainly the economics of collectibles applies to numerous quality original mf lenses: finite supply, potentially increasing number of collectors/users.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tervueren wrote:
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that.


Those Rokkors were wildly overpriced, just as Helios 40's were. But I don't think it's the bubble leaking - rather it's a fad that moved on. It was Rokkor a couple of years ago - nowadays it's FD 85/1.2 L and Rokkor mirrors.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gardener wrote:
Tervueren wrote:
I think the profit bubble is starting to leak, for instance a couple of years ago the minolta 58mm 1.2 was regularly fetching over 500gbp and now they struggle to reach half of that.


Those Rokkors were wildly overpriced, just as Helios 40's were. But I don't think it's the bubble leaking - rather it's a fad that moved on. It was Rokkor a couple of years ago - nowadays it's FD 85/1.2 L and Rokkor mirrors.


This is a likely reason I agree.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I remember when the Diana toy camera fad was at its peak about 9 years ago. Boxed examples were selling for $200+ it was crazy. Now a nice boxed example might bring $50 if you're lucky.

While the lowest valley of manual lens prices is now gone and never to return, I think prices have more or less stabilized - excepting particular fads and specific trends. It only takes a few over-hyped articles or forum threads with a large enough audience to inflate prices for something of limited availability for a year or two, but it does pass.

As for what it's worth? If it's something sought after and well known start it for 99 cents on ebay and you'll find out what it's worth in a week. I've even sold a car starting for 99 cents and was not disappointed. If it's something particularly rare or obscure - then list it for what you want to get out of it. If the price is too high it won't sell. If it's too low it will sell immediately. Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mos6502 wrote:
It only takes a few over-hyped articles or forum threads with a large enough audience to inflate prices for something of limited availability for a year or two, but it does pass.


Very true - that's what happened a while back when some ass-hat posted a youtube review of Tak 135/2.5 sending everyone scrambling for a "good" SMC version and driving up prices, while simultaneously making Super-Tak more affordable by calling it a paperweight.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The starting price should equal shipping cost to attract attention.
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