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PENTAX SMC 40mm/2,8 PANCAKE
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: PENTAX SMC 40mm/2,8 PANCAKE Reply with quote

Hallo!

Some time ago, I am believed to know all about fotografic.
But now, I know only a little bit.

A little bit is also a pancace from pentax.





I like this len´s, sometimes I can´t find the fokus-ring after changing.
The mechanic is simple, the aperture works fine.
I payed 85€, this len´s isn´t the cheapest on bay.

Today I used the pancake again, these are the result´s:


PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote






I like this pancake, and I don´t need any AF.

The SMC-M series is about 25 jears old.

regard´s Peter


PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see result of Pancake...


PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, it work´s! Web is silly today.
regards Peter


PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say I've really ever understood the concept behind the pancake lens. Could someone enlighten me concerning their appeal? I mean, I have the industar, great little lens but hard to focus and set aperture really quick. And most of the time I have to hold the camera in an improper fashion because I'm worried about getting my big hands in front of the lens. I never saw their inconspicuous nature being much of an advantage, especially when someone has a nice big camera body in back of it. Most of them are tessar designs also, right? So the advantages and disadvantages with that configuration are evident as well, right? Is it just the "cool factor?" Something which I certainly can't disagree about. Or is it something I'm unaware of?

Thanks in advance
~Marc


PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pancakes typically come into their own for street photography. Wide enough to give decent DOF and so pre-focusing is OK. My nikkor pancake is a magnificent lens with superb OOF and very sharp. Good colour and contrast. Altogether a lens that demands a premium, and that is the main complaint about it - too expensive. That little Industar will give magnificent colour saturation and is also sharp. Definitely not designed for fast focus!
Smile Smile Smile


patrickh


PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats Peter. Nice little lens. Those pancake are magnet and it is difficult to resist to them



Quote:
I can't say I've really ever understood the concept behind the pancake lens

I don't know for the other pancake but for Contax 45mm
tessar, a Zeiss design of 1902, has constantly been undergoing improvements.
thanks of the 4 lens and the T* coating it have one of the best flare resistance and no chromatic aberration in highlight
fantastic saturated colors and best resolution stopped down
of course it is not the most practical lens to use, neither the best bokeh but I like to take it on the beach where it is discrete
like all the contax lens, I never put a hood on it
I pay 88 euros for my second mint contax 45 MM, not my most used lens but difficult to resist to beauty


PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

themoleman342 wrote:
I can't say I've really ever understood the concept behind the pancake lens.


Marc, I see you have a Tessar 50mm and an Industar 50-2. Then I guess you know that these lenses are capable of great results. Now imagine a modern Tessar, with up-to-date multi-coating and high tech glass. Put that optical unit in a small compact mount and, voilŕ, you have a pancake lens Laughing.

Cheers!

Abbazz


PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That´s right!
A Tessar 50/2,8 is also a "Pancake", but the tube is longer and becomes a little hood. So, it look´s normal.

regards Peter


PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the reason behind the pancake lenses is a very practical one: to be able to fit one's reflex camera inside a coat's pocket (and thus being able to walk around without photographic bags). Of course, the concept works if you use a camera like a Praktica or a 167 MT or a 400D. If you use it on a 5D or a RX the concept becomes a bit useless Very Happy


PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first impressions based on shots I took with this SMC 40/2.8 Pentax pancake on EOS 5D(*) are : no distortion; good flare resistance; soft corners at full aperture.

I should take comparative pictures with the CZ Tessar 40/2.8 T* pancake I own too Wink


(*) Yes, I had to hack this lens because all PK mount lenses are hitting the 5D mirror with the aperture lever. This is a non-reversible hack because on this lens, the lever is dot-soldered on inner part, not screwed.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abbazz wrote:

Marc, I see you have a Tessar 50mm and an Industar 50-2. Then I guess you know that these lenses are capable of great results. Now imagine a modern Tessar, with up-to-date multi-coating and high tech glass. Put that optical unit in a small compact mount and, voilŕ, you have a pancake lens Laughing.


Although, not all pancakes are Tessars. My CV40 is a pancake, but has 6 elements in 5 groups (one aspherical).