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padiej
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 244 Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: PENTAX SMC 40mm/2,8 PANCAKE |
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padiej wrote:
Hallo!
Some time ago, I am believed to know all about fotografic.
But now, I know only a little bit.
A little bit is also a pancace from pentax.
I like this len´s, sometimes I can´t find the fokus-ring after changing.
The mechanic is simple, the aperture works fine.
I payed 85€, this len´s isn´t the cheapest on bay.
Today I used the pancake again, these are the result´s: _________________ Cam: Canon EOS 5D, 50D, 500D, Pentax Ist DL
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padiej
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 244 Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
I like this pancake, and I don´t need any AF.
The SMC-M series is about 25 jears old.
regard´s Peter _________________ Cam: Canon EOS 5D, 50D, 500D, Pentax Ist DL
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I don't see result of Pancake... _________________ -------------------------------
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padiej
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 244 Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
Now, it work´s! Web is silly today.
regards Peter _________________ Cam: Canon EOS 5D, 50D, 500D, Pentax Ist DL
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I can't say I've really ever understood the concept behind the pancake lens. Could someone enlighten me concerning their appeal? I mean, I have the industar, great little lens but hard to focus and set aperture really quick. And most of the time I have to hold the camera in an improper fashion because I'm worried about getting my big hands in front of the lens. I never saw their inconspicuous nature being much of an advantage, especially when someone has a nice big camera body in back of it. Most of them are tessar designs also, right? So the advantages and disadvantages with that configuration are evident as well, right? Is it just the "cool factor?" Something which I certainly can't disagree about. Or is it something I'm unaware of?
Thanks in advance
~Marc |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:33 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
The pancakes typically come into their own for street photography. Wide enough to give decent DOF and so pre-focusing is OK. My nikkor pancake is a magnificent lens with superb OOF and very sharp. Good colour and contrast. Altogether a lens that demands a premium, and that is the main complaint about it - too expensive. That little Industar will give magnificent colour saturation and is also sharp. Definitely not designed for fast focus!
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Congrats Peter. Nice little lens. Those pancake are magnet and it is difficult to resist to them
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I can't say I've really ever understood the concept behind the pancake lens |
I don't know for the other pancake but for Contax 45mm
tessar, a Zeiss design of 1902, has constantly been undergoing improvements.
thanks of the 4 lens and the T* coating it have one of the best flare resistance and no chromatic aberration in highlight
fantastic saturated colors and best resolution stopped down
of course it is not the most practical lens to use, neither the best bokeh but I like to take it on the beach where it is discrete
like all the contax lens, I never put a hood on it
I pay 88 euros for my second mint contax 45 MM, not my most used lens but difficult to resist to beauty _________________ T* |
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Abbazz
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 1098 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Abbazz wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
I can't say I've really ever understood the concept behind the pancake lens. |
Marc, I see you have a Tessar 50mm and an Industar 50-2. Then I guess you know that these lenses are capable of great results. Now imagine a modern Tessar, with up-to-date multi-coating and high tech glass. Put that optical unit in a small compact mount and, voilŕ, you have a pancake lens .
Cheers!
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padiej
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 244 Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: |
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padiej wrote:
That´s right!
A Tessar 50/2,8 is also a "Pancake", but the tube is longer and becomes a little hood. So, it look´s normal.
regards Peter _________________ Cam: Canon EOS 5D, 50D, 500D, Pentax Ist DL
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I think the reason behind the pancake lenses is a very practical one: to be able to fit one's reflex camera inside a coat's pocket (and thus being able to walk around without photographic bags). Of course, the concept works if you use a camera like a Praktica or a 167 MT or a 400D. If you use it on a 5D or a RX the concept becomes a bit useless _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Flor27
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1195 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
My first impressions based on shots I took with this SMC 40/2.8 Pentax pancake on EOS 5D(*) are : no distortion; good flare resistance; soft corners at full aperture.
I should take comparative pictures with the CZ Tessar 40/2.8 T* pancake I own too
(*) Yes, I had to hack this lens because all PK mount lenses are hitting the 5D mirror with the aperture lever. This is a non-reversible hack because on this lens, the lever is dot-soldered on inner part, not screwed. _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Abbazz wrote: |
Marc, I see you have a Tessar 50mm and an Industar 50-2. Then I guess you know that these lenses are capable of great results. Now imagine a modern Tessar, with up-to-date multi-coating and high tech glass. Put that optical unit in a small compact mount and, voilŕ, you have a pancake lens .
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Although, not all pancakes are Tessars. My CV40 is a pancake, but has 6 elements in 5 groups (one aspherical).
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