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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: Tamron 70-210 3.5 (constant) SP (SAMPLES ADDED) |
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Richard_D wrote:
For the odd occasion I feel the need for a tele-zoom I've been using my (sorry) AF Nikkor 80-200mm 2.8 ED, but whilst it's a great lens it is very heavy and bulky and not a lens I'd reach for if I'm off for a general walk.
Wanting something reasonably fast but substantially more compact and with a good close focus the Tamron SP 70-210 3.5 seemed a good bet.
Finding one on ebay for 29.99 inc Nikon mount made it a no brainer.
It arrived this morning in great condition with case caps and hood. Hopefully the rain will lift tomorrow so that I can use it... _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come...
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
With your Nikon this is a perfect couple, I am sure you will love it. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Bruce
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 842 Location: Boston, Ma USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote:
Wow, nice grab! You also have the legendary AF 2.8 Nikon zoom?
Id likes to see this comparison. Fingers crossed for the Tamron. |
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Riku
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1059 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Riku wrote:
It's better than most primes in its range |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Grrr how do you test a lens with a heavy grey sea mist and 100yd visibility? _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats Richard, great bargain _________________ T* |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Excellent catch! Congratulations! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Portrait.... close-up.... _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
I'm just having a look at a few shots I did manage (I'll post samples soon) - first impressions are distinctive coma and softness wide open particularly at 210 but sharp when stopped down a couple of stops. Very good bokeh for a zoom.
Oddly I'm not unhappy with it's performance wide open because it seems to give flower close-ups a beautiful glow. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Looking at further shots the coma isn't present wide open at 70mm and it's sharp. At 210 stopping down just to f4 eliminates it and it's noticeably sharper.
I will post shots to demonstrate when I've got a decent speed connection. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Okay first shots all unsharpened
First daisy shot wide open at 210:
and at f8:
Redflower at closest range 210mm/f3.5:
As before but f4:
Now close ups from the other end wide open:
Which leads me to the conclusion that at close range the lens is essentially sharp wide open at 70mm whilst at 210mm closeup there is a touch of coma wide open that disappears stopped down just to f4. I don't think it's just the shallower dof at the long end, but I'd be interested in peoples views. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Lovely bokeh wide open!! This could be a great glamour lens.
BTW excellent pictures Richard. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Abbazz
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 1098 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Abbazz wrote:
I agree with Orio, the rendition wide open at 210mm is great. It reminds me of a Verito.
Thanks for posting these, Richard.
Cheers!
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Thanks folks. I'm quite impressed with the lens. It's performance seems pretty good, not quite up to my 80-200 2.8 Nikkor, but not that far off and it's a lot smaller _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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IvanJ
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Serbia
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: |
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IvanJ wrote:
Richard_D wrote: |
Thanks folks. I'm quite impressed with the lens. It's performance seems pretty good, not quite up to my 80-200 2.8 Nikkor, but not that far off and it's a lot smaller |
I also have 80-200/2.8D ED and it should be much better than this at 200mm at any aperture. Sure, it has some softness and glow near minimum focus distance wide open, but it is much clearer than this.
How good is nikkor 75-150/3.5 in comparison to this? _________________ Nikon D70, Zenitar 16/2.8 FE, Super Takumar 50/1.4, Jupiter 9 85/2, Elicar 90/2.5 Macro, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, Jupiter 11A 135/4, Pentacon 200/4. CZJ Sonnar 300/4 Nikkors: 20/2.8 AF-D, 50/1.8 AF, 105/2.5 Ais, 80-200/2.8 AF-D, TC-16A |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
IvanJ wrote: |
Richard_D wrote: |
Thanks folks. I'm quite impressed with the lens. It's performance seems pretty good, not quite up to my 80-200 2.8 Nikkor, but not that far off and it's a lot smaller |
I also have 80-200/2.8D ED and it should be much better than this at 200mm at any aperture. Sure, it has some softness and glow near minimum focus distance wide open, but it is much clearer than this.
How good is nikkor 75-150/3.5 in comparison to this? |
I agree at 200mm wide open the Nikkor is technically a lot better(although I have to say I quite like the Tamron's glow for the flower shots). I haven't posted any longer distance shots, but the Tamron is still a little soft at longer distances wide open (although it loses the glow away from the minimum focus) at 200mm. One stop down and the performance difference between the two lenses narrows a lot, and at the short end the difference isn't that great to start with. I'll try and test both lenses at the same focal lengths and apertures at some point to better illustrate comparative performance.
As to the 70-150 E series, apart from having one of the loosest focus/zoom rings going I haven't heard any bad things about the lens, but haven't tried it. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
No chance for a comparison with other lenses, but her are a selection of shots that show it's performance at 210 with differing distances and apertures which should give more of an impression:
Wide open at 210mm a few feet away - maybe not pin sharp but far from soft and the glow you get at minimal focus distance is gone:
Minimum focus at 210mm and f8 - sharp (where in focus) and no glow:
At 210 with a typical 5.6 aperture, few feet away:
and a 100% edge crop (I think this is pretty good for a zoom at it's extreme length):
_________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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