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Orio
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: Melissa (Distagon 2.8/35) |
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Orio wrote:
Just a few shots taken today:
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Superb shoots!!! I love all of them ! Eyes on first one incredible! _________________ -------------------------------
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Agree, luv 'em all!
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Now that's a daring cat. What floor are you on Orio? Love the whole lot of them. Fab lens again. You must have one of the finest collections in Europe!
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
Now that's a daring cat. What floor are you on Orio? Love the whole lot of them. Fab lens again. You must have one of the finest collections in Europe!
patrickh |
That is for sure! I saw them _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
Now that's a daring cat. What floor are you on Orio? |
I'm on the second floor, Patrick. Actually, I don't know how you count them - we count ground floor aside, and first floor is elevated...
patrickh wrote: |
Love the whole lot of them. Fab lens again. You must have one of the finest collections in Europe!
patrickh |
Well... yes I have many good lenses, and some very good ones. But I don't have any of the really expensive ones: no Distagon 21, no Distagon 15, no Elmarit 19, no any Summilux, no Planar 55/1.2, no Planar 85/1.2, no Nikkor super teles, no Leica M system, no Leica classics... and of course no Canon L....
So, I don't think I am in the top of the list, but... who cares??
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Lovely shots (and cat ) _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Orio
If one measures not in dollars but "best in class" for what you want, I would bet there are very few lenses you would trade for. Fabulous collection anyway,
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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poilu
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
superb shots! it's easy to understand who is the boss there _________________ T* |
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Orio
I was worried on the first one. It looks like she has a tothpick in her back teeth. These are really great. I did not shoot this lens for some time. It is a really quality performer. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
Orio
If one measures not in dollars but "best in class" for what you want, I would bet there are very few lenses you would trade for. Fabulous collection anyway,
patrickh |
Yes - I wouldn't mind having a Distagon 21 and a Leica M8 with lenses, however
poilu wrote: |
it's easy to understand who is the boss there |
yes - but I force her to negotiate - if not, strikes will hit her daily meals
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
Orio
I was worried on the first one. It looks like she has a tothpick in her back teeth. |
yes, she's an incredible mouth contorsionist
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
These are really great. I did not shoot this lens for some time. It is a really quality performer. |
Yes, I left it on the shelf too much, too. It's easy to do it when you also have the 1.4/35 but the 2.8/35 has a character of its own and mostly, it has nearly zero defects. My favourite use of it is shooting architecture. For the little price it has (AE copies like the one I used in the blindfold test are often sold for less than 100 Euros), it's really difficult to understand why so few people use it.
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
That's not a cat, it seems to be a person with a little fur.
Real personality! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
That's not a cat, it seems to be a person with a little fur.
Real personality! |
Oh, but she is a person. She talks to me, and (that's the most worrying thing), I can understand her! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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photon
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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photon wrote:
mmm... all those beautiful cat people.
The case is that I´m still looking for a good 35mm to use with my Pentax K20 and I was already decided for the Flektogon 35 f2.4, but now, after so many cats, I´m doubting a lot, (it also doesn´t help the crap result of the flek 2.8 in the kds315* comparaison thread, have to say).
Now i´m thinking about the Distagon, but don´t know if is any M42 version available or if not, any adapter to use them with my Pentax Dslr.
One important question, would Distagon bit the Flektogon in contrast/sharpness performance?
I´m thinking about to use this lens for aerial photography (focus at infinity and the aperture at 5.6 or 8 cause I use to fly in sunny days, specially if taken pictures) and I´m looking for the maximum IQ in order to do big amplifications if needed. Maybe somebody has more suggestions to think about...
Thanks in advance!
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esrods
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 148 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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esrods wrote:
photon wrote: |
mmm... all those beautiful cat people.
The case is that I´m still looking for a good 35mm to use with my Pentax K20 and I was already decided for the Flektogon 35 f2.4, but now, after so many cats, I´m doubting a lot, (it also doesn´t help the crap result of the flek 2.8 in the kds315* comparaison thread, have to say).
Now i´m thinking about the Distagon, but don´t know if is any M42 version available or if not, any adapter to use them with my Pentax Dslr.
One important question, would Distagon bit the Flektogon in contrast/sharpness performance?
I´m thinking about to use this lens for aerial photography (focus at infinity and the aperture at 5.6 or 8 cause I use to fly in sunny days, specially if taken pictures) and I´m looking for the maximum IQ in order to do big amplifications if needed. Maybe somebody has more suggestions to think about...
Thanks in advance!
Oscar |
Oscar, I am not a cat person so not sure if I am qualified to make comments on Flek and Dustagon 35mm lenses - these are known as cat lens.
I had Flek 35/2.4 (sold it ) and just received Distagon 35/2.8. I have not fully tested Distagon but so far so good with good sharpness. Colour rendition and contrast is very similar between two but Flek has richier colour. Edge sharpness at wide open (and stopped down for that matter) the Distagon wins easily.
As I said, I have not fully tested but so far Distagon is slightly ahead.
Strange thing I have noticed was the size of JPG files the distagon produced. I tested with my 300D (6.5M) and the file size reached 6Mb
3Mb was about max. I will test raw file size. _________________ Edward Hwa Suck Shin
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
Neat shots, that lens is incredible.
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
esrods wrote: |
Strange thing I have noticed was the size of JPG files the distagon produced. I tested with my 300D (6.5M) and the file size reached 6Mb
3Mb was about max. I will test raw file size. |
So in other words, in the input image, adjacent pixels had different values. This is what you would expect of a lens whose resolving power over most of the image plane is higher than the sensor resolution. JPG compression needs to add many more terms to simulate such a crisp image, as opposed to a smoothly varying one where adjacent pixels have similar values. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I often notice this, images with lots of detail and different colours, produce larger JPEGS than images with less detail and, mostly, fewer colours. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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ptodd
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 39 Location: England: London / Winchester
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ptodd wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I often notice this, images with lots of detail and different colours, produce larger JPEGS than images with less detail and, mostly, fewer colours. |
...and images with lots of noise produce the biggest of all.
I really enjoyed those pictures, especially the first one. |
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ChrisLilley
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
ptodd wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
I often notice this, images with lots of detail and different colours, produce larger JPEGS than images with less detail and, mostly, fewer colours. |
...and images with lots of noise produce the biggest of all. |
Yes - same reason. In the case of thermal noise, its quite unrelated to optics so the resolution of the noise really is that of the sensor. Noise in beyer digital cameras is also highly chromatic (for the same reason). _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
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