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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:13 pm Post subject: Most Unusual - Sun Trigger Preset Zoom M42 |
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Oldhand wrote:
At a photographic group meeting last light, I was given a bag of old camera gear.
Inside among other lenses was this most interesting pre-set lens by Sun.
The aperture is set normally via the aperture ring and this acts as the pre-set.
The aperture is not automatically actuated but squeezed into place before taking by the trigger on the pistol grip.
In practice it is awkward.
You really need three hands to focus, hold the pistol grip and shoot. But it is an interesting idea.
Beautifully made - all metal and glass with tight tolerances and smooth as silk mechanicals.
Still looks new, so probably didn't get much use.
Specs are:
Sun Hi-Tele Zoom lens.
f4.8 85-210mm
M42
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
Expire: 2014-01-07
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
These were common both with and without the grip. I've never owned one though so don't know how it perform, but my guess is so-so as it is one of the early zooms. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
These were common both with and without the grip. I've never owned one though so don't know how it perform, but my guess is so-so as it is one of the early zooms. |
This one won't work without the pistol grip.
It contains the mechanism which is the only way to close the aperture.
Aperture can be closed via the trigger and locked for stop-down metering via the little slide lever lock on the side of the pistol grip.
Without the grip, none of this works and the aperture is fully open.
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
Expire: 2018-01-18
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I have three versions of this, including this pistol grip version. Its quite common in all its versions.
Interestingly one version was sold by Topcon as a Topcor, but designated 87-205/4.7, one of the oddest specs ever.
Its much easier to use on a film camera, with the cable release. One hand serves to hold the grip and press the trigger, while the other focuses. On DSLR its considerably more trouble !
I find these vary a lot. Some of mine are better, some worse.
http://forum.mflenses.com/sun-85-210-4-8-preset-t-mount-zoom-with-pistol-grip-t12610,highlight,%2Bsun.html _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
OK, just looked into the bottom of the bag and voila - a cable release.
Here it is attached.
And here on a Spotmatic.
Much easier to use.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:13 am Post subject: Moments of truth |
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Oldhand wrote:
After Ian's comments about IQ, I wasn't expecting much - in fact, I wasn't even going to test the lens - just pop it back into the bag as an interesting relic.
However curiosity got the better of me and I decided to see what it could do.
Mounted on a tripod, the trigger is surprisingly easy to use and even convenient.
The results were quite a surprise.
See for yourself:
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1432
Expire: 2017-05-23
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:37 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
Expire: 2016-07-30
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:09 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Good on you for testing this lens, I have seen them on ebay occasionally and have always wondered. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:18 am Post subject: |
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David wrote:
I had one and it was sharp as the dickens. But it didn't have the cable release, so it was very hard to use. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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